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Title: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 00:09 BST (UK)
Hi

Can someone give me some advice please.  I am trying to trace any information on a brother John and sister Tabitha. Both my parents passed away many years ago and my other siblings also. I was always told by my sister and brother (now deceased) that I had a further 2 sisters and 1 brother. I have traced a sister called Sandra Tabitha who was born in March 1947 and died in April 1947. My other siblings were born between 1939 and 1945 and that they lived for a few months only. I have no one else to ask if this is true. Can anyone suggested anything.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: cardiff on Monday 02 May 11 11:01 BST (UK)
Hi
What was your mothers maiden name? When you look up Freebmd.org.uk you can enter your surname and then  enter mothers maiden name, and if you know the area as well. Its a start so try it or give us the details and I am sure one of the rootchaters will look for you
cheers cardiff :)
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 13:21 BST (UK)
Hi Cardiff

Thanks very much for coming back to me. My mothers maiden name was Elizabeth Ann Doreen Wood born 1916 in the district of Pontypridd and all children were born in the Pontypridd area. The date ranges between my eldest Brother Ray Born in 1938, my sister Sandra born 1947 and died the same year. Sister Marylyn born 1949 and myself born 1957. I new from Marylyn that there were other children, but my parents never discussed this very much. My fathers name was Arthur Vernon Webb born 1916 also in Pontypridd. I have tried various sites but still drew a blank. If anyone can help and
would be very grateful.

Lancalot
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: ambers on Monday 02 May 11 14:09 BST (UK)
I can see a:

Arthur D Webb...mothers maiden name Wood
1qtr Pontypridd 1942 11a 814

Can confirm others:
Raymond M Webb 1938
Sandra T Webb 1947
Marlyn C Webb 1949

Ambers
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi Ambers

Thanks for the information, but I can't find any further information on a John and Tabitha who appears were also my siblings. No family members left to ask.

Thanks again
Lancalot
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: cardiff on Monday 02 May 11 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi
I have looked on Glyn taff cemetery I see your parents burial ( I have no access to creamations), whats interesting no burials for  the 3 mentioned by ambers, I think you need to contact Glyn Taff cemetery to ask about  the three mention first to see if they where creamated, there is a possibility that the other you talk of where also creamated, you know the year  and their parents do you know where they where living that info would be there also.  I looked at Freebmd and looked at deaths for Pontypridd, athought was your parent both from pontypridd you often see family go home to parents or inlaws  two have the babies but there are a few poss, or could she have been visiting family and the children died there.
There is also a possibility that if they where buried or creamated they are buried with your parents that would need checking out. My great grand mother was buried with tw0 of her children babies, but I only discovered that by speaking to the cemetery who told me  I was amazed.
 Try this route and let us know what you find out.
cheers cardiff :) ???
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 15:38 BST (UK)
Hi Cardiff

I never thought of contact Glyntaff crematorium thanks for that. There was mention many years ago that sometimes when children died when they were young that they were buried with other people don't know if this was true. Both my parents were born in Pontypridd and I know that Ray, Marylyn and myself were born at East glamorgan. Maybe if I contact the crematorium they may through some light on this.

Many thanks for your help again
Lancalot
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: cardiff on Monday 02 May 11 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi
I have looked at BMD and there are no births registered other than what has been mentioned, If the children died within weeks could their death only be registered and no mothers name would be be on the reg. So lets hope Glyntaff have an answer for you
Good luck
cheers cardiff ;)
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 16:48 BST (UK)
Hi Cardiff

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Kind regards
Lancalot
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: ambers on Monday 02 May 11 19:19 BST (UK)
Is there any chance that some of them were still births?

When I found my ggrandparents grave, there daughter Sarah (of no Age) and referred to as an infant on the gravestone, was buried with them.

I have also found in my family from that area, that they called all their children by their middle name...thank goodness for the 1911 census as I wasn't able to confirm any of the births.

Was the Sandra Tabitha you found on BMD called by her middle name of Tabitha by the family?

Amber
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Monday 02 May 11 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi Amber

They may have been stillbirths I don't really know. Thats all I was aware of is that my sister Marylyn always said that we had 2 further sisters and 1 extra brother. I know Sandra only lived for a month so I don't know is she was called Tabitha, it may have been that if there was a sister called Tabitha that died they may have wanted Sandra to have Tabitha in her second name to remember her. I only wished my parents were more open about things because I have children and I know I would want them to know if they had a further siblings.

I appreciate your help anyway.
Lancalot
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: selwynfroggitt on Tuesday 03 May 11 20:27 BST (UK)
The marriage on Ancestry shows the mothers maiden name as Wood but on checking the births the mothers maiden name for the children you quote the MMN is Woods
Raymond M Webb June Q 1938 Pontypridd mmn Woods
Arthur D Webb b March q 1942 Pontypridd died March Q Pontypridd mmn Woods
Sandra T Webb born June q 1947 Pontypridd mmn Woods died June Q 1947 Pontypridd
Marylyn C Webb born March Q 1949 mmn Woods
Yourself born June Q 1957 mmn Wood.

There are no births for John Webb for the period mmn Wood or Woods and no deaths during the same period for John Webb under 10 years old
Title: Re: Brother and sister
Post by: lancalot on Tuesday 03 May 11 23:22 BST (UK)
Hi Selwyn

Thanks for looking further into this, it seems that my sister may have got it wrong, but she was certain there were other children born before her besides the ones you mentioned. We may never know unless someone who new my parents back then may know, but my parents would have been 95 now so it seems unlikely anyone is left who new them.  I do appreciate your help in trying to trace my family, and thanks to everyone else who tried.

Lancalot