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hi I'm here again i am looking for a Mally Hyde born 1844 in Dukinfield Cheshire her father was John Hyde her mother was Esther Hyde was Drake the last time i have her is on the 1861 census with her parents then i have her on the 1881 census living at 30 park st North Meols Lancashire with a Elizabeth G :-\alt and a kezia charlesworth she is a servant /cook age 37 cant find a death or marriage but don't think she did marry i have looked everywere can some one help ;D
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Hi she is on the 1891 census as MATTY aged 47 b Dukinfield servant to a William Hall.
Census Ref RG12/3280/23/40
Keyboard86
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Possible death registration:
Deaths Dec 1892
HYDE Matty
aged 48
Ashton 8d 360
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Hi no that is not her, their is a birth of a Matty in Ashton Dec 1843, will look again!
Keyboard86
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Its weird she has disappeared ??? cant find her anywere only the birh and census when she was 37 then cant find anything ???
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i have been looking for a Mally Hyde born 1844 Dukinfield Lancashire, her parents are John and Esther Drake/Hyde. I have her on the 1861 census, then on the 1881 census ,she is living with a Elizabeth Galt in Southport has a cook/servant age 37. Elizabeth Galt was born in Ashton Under Lyne there is another Mally Hyde born around 1843 her parents are James and Mary Hyde/Thompson. And there is a Matty Hyde born around the same time can anyone help im going crazy over this one please ??? ;D
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Hi lin46,
This is a duplicate post you may want to close this one to stop any confusion,
Billy.
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I think that she married William Wallace Duke in 1869 at St Michael, Ashton Under Lyne. She is listed as Mary Hyde. GF
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1871
Lodge Street, Ashton Under Lyne
John Hyde Head W 69 Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
John do Son U 24 Winder Cotton Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
William W Duke Son in Law M 24 Winder Cotton Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
Mary (sic) do Daur M 26 Weaver Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
George do Grand Son 2 Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
Elizabeth do Grand Daur 6mo Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
RG10/4074/60/3
GF
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Hiya Lin...www.freebmd.org.uk
HYDE Mally mar qtr 1843 Ashton and C (Oldham) 20 90 (christened 16th April 1843 St Michael Ashton u Lyne ,father James - mother Mary - extracted record)
Hyde Mally mar qtr 1844 Ashton & L (oldham) 20 90
so 2 different births...notice the same register number 20 90 ??...so uncanny but a year apart ....have you checked on lan-opc ??...I think Oldham is covered to some extent....back soon....allan
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This link (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_4176068&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99) shows her as Mally Duke on the 1881 census. GF
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Hiya...right...she wasn`t born in Dukinfield
go to www.familysearch.org then click on search - then click on FAMILY SEARCH RECORD PILOT
MALLY HYDE christened 24th March 1844 St Michaels, Ashton undre Lyne , Lancashire ,
father John Hyde
mother Esther
index project batch number 101607 - 2
that`s her extracted christening / babtism....
allan ;)
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In 1891 she can be found at census reference RG12/3275/124/6 and in 1901 she is widowed and can be found at census reference RG13/3782/147/13.
In 1851, incidentally, she can be found with her parents at census reference HO107/2233/336/4. GF
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Hi GF if you go to 1851 census ref HO107/2238/426/16 I think Mally's parents are James and Mary?
Keyboard86
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I have posted on the other Thread ???...found her christening on FAMILY SEARCH RECORD PILOT
allan
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Hi GF if you go to 1851 census ref HO107/2238/426/16 I think Mally's parents are James and Mary?
Keyboard86
Apologies GF, like your 1851 census ref better!
Keyboard86
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Dukinfield is within spitting distance of Ashton-u-Lyne, less than 1 mile south, so she could have been born in Dukinfield and christened in Ashton.
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I've merged the two thread on Mally Hyde to prevent any more duplication and confusion.
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Dukinfield is within spitting distance of Ashton-u-Lyne, less than 1 mile south, so she could have been born in Dukinfield and christened in Ashton.
didn`t know that...so she probably was born in Dukenfield....thanks....allan
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;D Hi thanks everyone i put Dukinfield Cheshire has birth but i looked and its Ashton Under Lyne her parents are John and Esther Hyde/Drake they were married 25Th April 1832 st Marys Oldham Lancashire mally is on the cheshire bmd born sub district hartshead 1844 there is another mally born same area 1843 her parents are James and Mary Hyde/Thompson i went to the library and checked the marriage of these to make sure i had the right one ;D
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If you search for the surname Duke, born 1844 +/-1, with Ashton as the Place keyword, on http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/search.page/index/census_1911 it indicates that she was born at Hurst.
Her death is registered in 1916 at Ashton Under Lyne (Q1 8d 625) aged 71. GF
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This link (https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/9QR9-KNG/p4) shows the marriage to William Wallace Duke. She is listed (incorrectly) as Mary but her father is confirmed as John Hyde. GF
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;D Hi thanks everyone i put Dukinfield Cheshire has birth but i looked and its Ashton Under Lyne her parents are John and Mary Hyde/Drake they were married 25Th April 1832 st Marys Oldham Lancashire mally is on the cheshire bmd born sub district hartshead 1844 there is another mally born same area 1843 her parents are James and Mary Hyde/Thompson i went to the library and checked the marriage of these to make sure i had the right one ;D
Hello,
I looked for her initially and wondered if you had the right one because of Ashton/Dukinfield. I am a bit confused now.
Are you still looking for Mally, daughter of John and Esther ?
heywood
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The marriage at Oldham is John Hyde and Esther Drake- you probably just mistyped the information.
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1851 census:
HO107 Piece:2233 Folio:336 Page:4
Ryecroft, Ashton under Lyne.
HYDE, John Head Married M 47 1804 Hand Loom Weaver Cotton
Dukinfield,Cheshire
HYDE, Esther Wife Married F 42 1809 Housewife
Ashton, Lancashire
HYDE, Samuel Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Piecer Cotton
Ashton, Lancashire
HYDE, Jas Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Piecer Cotton
Ashton, Lancashire
HYDE, Sarah Ann Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Piecer Cotton
Ashton, Lancashire
HYDE, Mally Daughter Unmarried F 5 1846 At Home
Ashton, Lancashire
HYDE, John Son Unmarried M 3 1848 At Home
Ashton
( The Enumerator had put ditto under Sarah Ann so the bottom three are ANN on findmypasts transcript)
1871 Census:
RG10 Piece:4074 Folio:60 Page:3
Lodge Street, Ashton under Lyne.
HYDE, John Head M 69 1802 Lancashire
HYDE, John Son M 24 1847 Lancashire
DUKE, William W Son-In-Law M 24 1847 Lancashire
DUKE, Mary Daughter F 26 1845 Lancashire
DUKE, George Grandson M 2 1869 Lancashire
DUKE, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 0 1871 Lancashire
Only a couple of houses still stand on Lodge Street
OL7 0BW in Google maps:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
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Here is John and Esther in
1841 HO107; Piece 533; Book: 7; Folio: 33; Page: 26
Hurst Brook
John Hyde 25 yrs Weaver
Ester Hyde 33 yrs
Samuel Hyde 5 yrs
James Hyde 5 yrs
Sarah Ann Hyde 1 yr
John Drake 70 yrs Labourer
all born in county
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That looks good huckleberry :)
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;D Thank you everyone, sorry i did mis type it put Mary instead of Esther :( ive corrected it now ;D
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I've merged the two thread on Mally Hyde to prevent any more duplication and confusion.
Thank you very much ;D
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Hiya Lin...www.freebmd.org.uk
HYDE Mally mar qtr 1843 Ashton and C (Oldham) 20 90 (christened 16th April 1843 St Michael Ashton u Lyne ,father James - mother Mary - extracted record)
Hyde Mally mar qtr 1844 Ashton & L (oldham) 20 90
so 2 different births...notice the same register number 20 90 ??...so uncanny but a year apart ....have you checked on lan-opc ??...I think Oldham is covered to some extent....back soon....allan
The other Mally Hyde married a James Mason in 1864 at st peters Ashton under Lyne district ;D
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Here is John and Esther in
1841 HO107; Piece 533; Book: 7; Folio: 33; Page: 26
Hurst Brook
John Hyde 25 yrs Weaver
Ester Hyde 33 yrs
Samuel Hyde 5 yrs
James Hyde 5 yrs
Sarah Ann Hyde 1 yr
John Drake 70 yrs Labourer
all born in county
Is hurst brook hurst cross area?
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Hiya Lin...www.freebmd.org.uk
HYDE Mally mar qtr 1843 Ashton and C (Oldham) 20 90 (christened 16th April 1843 St Michael Ashton u Lyne ,father James - mother Mary - extracted record)
Hyde Mally mar qtr 1844 Ashton & L (oldham) 20 90
so 2 different births...notice the same register number 20 90 ??...so uncanny but a year apart ....have you checked on lan-opc ??...I think Oldham is covered to some extent....back soon....allan
The other Mally Hyde married a James Mason in 1864 at st peters Ashton under Lyne district ;D
Yes I made that mistake and gave up when I discovered that Mally MASON died in the June quarter of 1876 aged 31 in Ashton so, given that you found "your" Mally HYDE in 1881, Mally Mason nee HYDE can be eliminated from the search.
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Is hurst brook hurst cross area?
I would think so- comparing map from 1848 with a modern map it was in the area bounded by Curzon Road and Whiteacre Road
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i have her on the 1881 census living at 30 park st North Meols Lancashire
If the daughter of John and Esther married Mr Duke and the daughter of James and Mary married Mr Mason, the lady listed at North Meols in 1881 cannot be either of them.
I wonder if she is actually Matty (who does not seem to appear anywhere else in 1881)?
GF
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??? i know its so confusing but it says she is a cook and servant age 37 of dukinfield cheshire but it is spelt Mallie?
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Here is Matty:
1891 RG12; Piece: 3280; Folio 23; Page 40
126 Margaret Street Ashton under Lyne
William Hall widower 71 yrs Mechanic Iron Turner (retired) b Ashton-u-Lyne
Matty Hyde single 47 yrs General Servant (Domestic) b Dukinfield Cheshire
This fits with the fact that eliza Galt had returned to Ashton in 1891 and the other servant from 1881, Kezia Charlesworth was in service elsewhere in North Meols.
There is a death for her in 1892
It does say 'Mallie' you are right but one can only assume that it is an error
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Here is her life in public records:
1841 Census:
HO107 Piece:533 Book/Folio:7/33 Page:
26 Hurst Brook, Hartshead
Ashton under Lyne,
Birth:
HYDE Mally, DRAKE 1844 Hartshead.
HO107 Piece:2233 Folio:336 Page:4
Ryecroft, Ashton under Lyne.
1861 Census:
RG09 Piece:2985 Folio:128 Page:4
12, Lodge Street, Ashton under Lyne.
1871 Census:
RG10 Piece:4074 Folio:60 Page:3
Lodge Street, Ashton under Lyne.
1881 through 1911 she is at 220 Church Street:
1881 Census:
RG11 Piece:4035 Folio:142 Page:29
220, Church Street, Ashton vnder Lyne
1891 Census:
220, Church Street, Ashton under Lyne
RG12 Piece:3275 Folio:124 Page:6
1901 Census:
RG13 Piece:3782 Folio:147 Page:13
220, Church Street, Ashton under Lyne
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