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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Sheila2748 on Wednesday 27 April 11 18:17 BST (UK)
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My Great Grandfather William Varley, who died in 1915 at Gallipolli. His daughter Ethel was my grandmother and i would like to know any information about them.
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Hi Sheila
Welcome to Rootschat.
Can you give us a little more information so that we know we are on the right family. Your information is vague for a good search. Do you know how old William was when he died in Galipoli, and do you know what part of Lancashire he came from. Was he married or do you know what his parents were called???? Its just a little more information that could get us in the right place, right fellow you want
Thanks
regards Sandymc
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Hi looking at the soldiers that died in the Great War, your William Varley was born Liverpool, do you know approx his year of birth as their are 2 possible William's to research?
Keyboard86
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Varley William
Private,
Manchester Regiment,
11Th battalion,
died 19/8/1915
service number,9602
Husband of Sarah,
69 Edenson Street,
Beswick Manchester,
Helles memorial ,Turkey
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William was born in Liverpool and was 31 on enlistment,
Children of William,and Sarah,this is on a war record for William
Ethel Varley,28 Th Feb 1895, married,
Fanny Varley,7Th of May 1900,
Lillian 24 Th of August 1904
Harry 28 Th of April 1898,married
father and mother of William were Abraham and Elizabeth of Salford,
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Hi Sheila,
From the Manchester Roll of Honour
VARLEY W.
Private
11th Manchester Regt.
Volunteering in September 1914, he served in Grantham and in Surrey, prior to being drafted to Gallipoli in July 1915. He had only been overseas a few weeks when he made the supreme sacrifice, being killed in action at Suvia Bay on August 19th 1915.
He was entitled to the 1914-15 Star, and the General Service and Victory medals.
"Great deeds cannot die"
69 Edensor St, Beswick, Manchester
Hope this helps
Regards, Dave
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Thank you all for your information. it will help alot. Sheila
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Hi Shiela
Your great grandfather William was my Grandfather , my father being Harry born 28th April 1898 , my mother May was his second wife , I know father lost track of his sisters Lillian and Ethel but was reunited with I believe Ethel in 1979/1980 shortly before his death, recall Ethel lived around the Grey Mare Lane area of Manchester with family in Audenshaw, we may have information that we can share ---- Harry Varley
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Welcome to Rootschat Harry!
I suggest that you remove your date of birth from the post
Heather
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Hello Sheila
Thank you for you personal message response, I am apparently blocked from direct response until a number of postings have been made. It would have been 1979 when your grandmother Ethel visited my dad in Denton, can remember the meeting very emotional after I believe 25+years , Ethel traced him with help from DWP/Salvation Army. Dad died February 1980 and Mum Nov 1984.
Don't believe Dad ever made contact with Lillian or Fanny. I know little about Dads sisters and have never really attempted to trace history. However for my youngest daughter and ex wife it is the subject, ex wife was a researcher for Manchester University Family History unit attached to the Setanti exhibition when it operated in Ashton Town Hall and has obtained some good material on Dad and Grandfather William with copy army papers. How I came to see your posting is very much coincidence looking on line to print out a photo of the memorial at Helles on which Williams name appears for my grandsons school project, and having entered Williams details came across you posting. The Varley name lives on with me two sons and two grandsons. I believe, but would need to check, that we have a photo of William and Sarah with grandfather in uniform.
Kind regards Harry
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Hello again Harry,
I can tell you that Fanny Varley born 1900 married James Lightfoot in 1921 and she died 1978, I do not remember ever meeting her. But I did know Lillian Varley who was born 1904 and she married Thomas Lever in 1948 and had two sons. But Thomas died in 1948 and then Lillian married Joseph Kerrigan in 1958 and I remember going to see them when they lived off Stockport Road. Lillian also was rehoused on Grey Mare Lane and she died in 1985. I have a photo of Ethel and Lillian together and I also have two photos of the Helles Memorial, one of which is a photo of the panel with William Varleys name on it. I also have a copy of his service record and a photo of him in uniform with his wife Sarah. I do know that Ashton Town Hall have information and a museum about the Manchester Regt, which William was in and I am interested in finding out what I can. But I live in Devon now, so there is not much chance of me getting up there. I also had to help my grandson, when his home work was doing the family tree and I believe he got a good mark for it.
Can I ask, was your ex-wife called Liz? The reason that I am asking is that someone called Liz Varley got in touch with me on Ancestry a few years ago about your family and that is how I found out that my gran (Ethel) met up with her brother Harry, after many years, but she died not long after that.
Anyway Harry, best wishes for now and hope to hear from you again sometime.
Sheila.
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Hello Shiela
Thanks for you reply and further information, yes Liz Varley is my ex wife now a museums manager for another local authority. Currently she's out of the country I'll let her see the posts when she gets back and see if she has any additional to share. Incidentally mention of Audenshaw in the first post I think was as a result of Ethel mentioning Ashton Hill Lane which shares its location between Audenshaw and Droylsden.
Still in the area in Mossley, although around 1990 were looking at property in Newton Abbot strange coincidence but went in the opposite direction to rural Aberdeenshire !!!
Regards Harry
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Hello Harry,
I know that your father served during the First World War and could you tell me what Regiment he was in and what his job was. With the anniversary of the war today, I have been remembering William Varley. I have him on the websit Lives of the First World War and on the WW1 Memoriam. But dont know much about your dad, only that he was Williams son and my grandmothers brother. I hope you don't mind me asking you for this info and I hope to hear from you.
From Sheila.
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Hello Sheila
With apologies for not replying to your previous message earlier my ex wife Liz has all the information which I or she will forward to you.
Regards
Harry