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Title: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: TammyW on Friday 22 April 11 09:53 BST (UK)
I'm hoping that someone is planning a trip to the Birmingham records office and wouldn't mind looking up a record for me.
If anyone is willing to, I am looking for the Marriage of William Warwick and Elizabeth Meadows,
02 Feb 1800, Saint Martin, Birmingham. I am also trying to find William's parents names as well as William's birth date and place.

I know I'm asking a lot and don't really expect anyone to actually do it, but I am hoping that someone might just happen to be heading there and has a bit of time to spare to help me.

Tammy
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Brummygirl on Friday 22 April 11 21:07 BST (UK)
Hi Tammy

I can help you with the marriage details

William Warwick of this parish Bachelor and Elizabeth Meadows of this parish Spinster
Married by Banns
Witnesses are Lucy Warwick and John Meadows

Kind regards
Brummygirl
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: patrish on Friday 22 April 11 23:10 BST (UK)
What Brummygirl has posted is all the information that is given on a pre 1837 marriage.

No ages, place of birth, relationships,  addresses or parents names are given.  :(
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: anpefa1 on Friday 22 April 11 23:17 BST (UK)
hey,

negative responses are counter productive. if you can't say something nice or helpful,  don't say anything.
 tony
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 23 April 11 01:32 BST (UK)
Hello Tammy
There's just 1 William Warwick born B'ham about the right age Ch.1779 St.Martin's,parents William & Mary unfortunately he doesn't have a sister called Lucy but she may have been christened by another name of course.
Hey,Tony..Patrish was being helpful,she's just pointing out to Tammy that parents names don't appear on marriage entries in case she didn't realise.Take your attitude somewhere else & leave the Genealogy to our experts like Patrish.

jim
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: patrish on Saturday 23 April 11 13:04 BST (UK)
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Hey,Tony..Patrish was being helpful,she's just pointing out to Tammy that parents names don't appear on marriage entries in case she didn't realise.Take your attitude somewhere else & leave the Genealogy to our experts like Patrish.


Thank you very much Jim, that exactly what I was pointing out.


 



Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: tammyward on Sunday 24 April 11 01:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Brummygirl, Patrish and jim1 for your responses. I didn't know that parents names were not on marriage records.
It sounds very possible that the William and Mary that you found are the parents of William.

Thank you for the information on William and Elizabeth's marriage. Perhaps Lucy Warwick was a Cousin or Aunt.

Can anyone give me advice on how or where I can find the children of William and Mary and as well as the children of William and Elizabeth?
I know that William and Elizabeth had a child named John Warwick born 1801 in Birmingham apparently, although his death record says Staffordshire (I believe it is probably wrong). I live in Australia so am only able to find online records.

All your help is greatly appreciated

Tammy
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 24 April 11 02:00 BST (UK)
hey,

negative responses are counter productive. if you can't say something nice or helpful,  don't say anything.
 tony

I have no idea how you misinterpreted patrish's constructive comment.  :-\I don't know why you would bother to come to this thread simply to say this. Very strange ... :-\

Anyway ....  Tammy, if you ever need such lookups and don't get such a helpful response as this time, you can always contact the local archives/RO or library. I've found them very helpful, and for just a couple of pounds (if you know date and church) they may be able to look up these records for you and send you a photocopy (or these days probably email a scan  ;)). 

Brummygirl, may I ask where you obtained details of that marriage?
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 24 April 11 02:23 BST (UK)
Using the IGI to try to find children (did you know you can do this?  :)) born to William and Mary and William and Elizabeth ...  :(  - it's a bit of a minefield out there as there are several possibilities.

I know my ancestors around the same time and place used several churches, so if yours are the same I'm not sure if it's possible to simply guess at relationships even if the parent's names are the same and church of baptism is the same ... for example the 1779 baptism sounds the most likely, but the IGI has another in 1771 - same name, church and parents ... usually the residence or occupation is checked to try to work out who is who ....  :-\

Some of the Birmingham experts may have better resources and search skills.  :)

PS. Welcome to rootschat by the way.  ;D
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 24 April 11 10:24 BST (UK)
The IGI batches is the way to go.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm
you can search by surname in a particular Parish.
It's a guide only & as Ruskie said there's no substitute for viewing the originals which you can do by going along to your nearest LDS family centre who will get the fiches for you & you can view them there for a small fee.You can then look at the entries based on the information from the batches.

jim
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ewan on Sunday 24 April 11 20:43 BST (UK)
Hello Tammy

Found on the IGI all with Warwick surname, children of a William Warwick and Elizabeth baptised Bond Street Baptist Birmingham:

Sarah 28.4.1809
Ann 14.08.1800
Enoch 02.11.1804
John 14.10.1802
Caleb 28.11.1806

Don't know if they are yours.

Ewan
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ewan on Saturday 30 April 11 20:10 BST (UK)
Brummygirl, may I ask where you obtained details of that marriage?

I believe Brummygirl has a disc with the records of St Martins on it, possibly where she got the details of the marriage from.

Ewan
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 30 April 11 23:40 BST (UK)
Brummygirl, may I ask where you obtained details of that marriage?

I believe Brummygirl has a disc with the records of St Martins on it, possibly where she got the details of the marriage from.

Ewan

Thanks Ewan ...  :)
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Brummygirl on Sunday 01 May 11 01:42 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

No I don't have the disc lol
i looked them up at the library as i go there once a week or so

Kimdest regards
Brummygirl
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 01 May 11 02:36 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

No I don't have the disc lol
i looked them up at the library as i go there once a week or so

Kimdest regards
Brummygirl

Oh ok, thanks for letting me know.
(Now I know who to come to if I ever need to beg for a lookup.  ;D)
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Brummygirl on Sunday 01 May 11 09:27 BST (UK)
Until July when the top three floors  shuts  and the top floor is the Archives sob

Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 01 May 11 11:44 BST (UK)
Shuts forever?  :(
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ewan on Sunday 01 May 11 14:11 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

No I don't have the disc lol
i looked them up at the library as i go there once a week or so

Kimdest regards
Brummygirl


Sorry for the misunderstanding folks, I know Brummygirl does go to the library it was naughty of me to presume they had the disc as well, although I know some members do have it and a very useful disc it is too.

Ewan
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 01 May 11 14:23 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

No I don't have the disc lol
i looked them up at the library as i go there once a week or so

Kimdest regards
Brummygirl


Sorry for the misunderstanding folks, I know Brummygirl does go to the library it was naughty of me to presume they had the disc as well, although I know some members do have it and a very useful disc it is too.

Ewan


No harm done Ewan, and you're not naughty at all.  :)
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Brummygirl on Sunday 01 May 11 16:22 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

No not forever
Birmingham are building a new library which opens in 2013
They are closing the top three floors from July
But they are having to move a lot of the Archives which is a mammoth task, so there is going to be a Very Very Limited service available after July.

Kindest Regards
Brummygirl
Title: Re: Need help from anyone planning to visit the BIRMINGHAM RECORDS OFFICE
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 01 May 11 23:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Brummy, that's a relief.

There seem to be a lot of new building projects going on in the UK at the moment - and huge ones at that ...