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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: diveboy on Friday 22 April 11 01:33 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
after some assistance in finding out where Amelia Neander was born, immigrated from....
The details I have are
Amelia Neander married Thomas Hunter Reg 1862 #4159
She died 1886 in Stratford, Victoria Reg 1886 #3827
They had the following children
Amelia 1864
John Charles 1865
William Henry 1867
Louisa May 1869
Thomas Edward 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Alice 1876
According to her death certificate, she was 44 (puts her birth year at 1842) and her parents were Thomas & Elizth Neander.
Thanks in advance for any assistance offered.
Michael.
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Hi Michael,
What are you looking for now?
Sue
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Where Amelia came from.
I haven't found her entry into Australia or her birth, I have looked in Victoria, South Australia, New South Wales and Tasmania. Doesn't mean to say that I missed her, but so far the earliest record I have of her is her marriage.
thanks
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Maybe....From BISA
Not always quite accurate but a starting point ::)
NEANDER Whm Gotlob b. c 1806 d.1841
arrived Ship- 1837 SOLWAY Occupation- Joiner, Carpenter Resided Pt
Lincoln
Married Mary. Children - Lomis (after 1827-), Mark (after 1834-),
Amelia (after 1834-)
Sue
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Another source supporting the details above, but parents are still not as given at her death >:(
NEANDER Wilhelm Gottlob/Gottlieb, wife Mary, Lomis, Mark, Amelia arrived in SA 1837-10-16 on Solway from Hamburg
Sue
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Thank you so much Sue.
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PROV has digitised Administration papers for a Louis NEANDER, cabinet maker, d 24 August, 1857, resident of Portland. Louis's widow is Susan NEANDER and his children listed as: Alfred Louis, George Henry and Louis. (I hope this is correct - whoever the solicitor's clerk was he should have worked harder in handwriting lessons.)
As part of the Administration process there is a paper signed 16 August, 1858, by a Gotlieb NEANDER, licenced victualler of Portland, Victoria. He states he has been living in Portland for the last six months. I could not see a reference to the relationship between Gotlieb and Louis but thought you might find this of interest.
Perhaps this is 'Lomis', Amelia's brother?
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/access/probate.asp
Judith
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TROVE
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4775935?searchTerm=neander&searchLimits=l-decade=185
Gottlob NEANDER was granted 5 acres of land at Normanby (Victoria) - proclaimed 1847, deeds dated 1850
Judith
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From VIC BMD Index:
Children to Gottloph NEANDER and Hannah { surname not recorded}
1. Robert b 1844 Portland # 30627 Church of England St Stephens Portland Fiche: 447
2. William b 1844 Portland # 30628 Church of England St Stephens Portland Fiche 447
Lewis NEANDER m Susan PEARCE 1854 # 1672
1. Louis b 1855 Portland # 8308
2. Louis b 1857 Portland # 15946
Amelia NEANDER m Thomas HUNTER 1862 # 4159
1. Amelia b 1864 BRUN # 978
2. John b 1865 BRUN # 13745
3. William Henry b 1867 Sale # 24261
4. Louisa b 1869 Stratford # 25375
5. Thomas Edward b 1871 Stratford # 26675
6. Elizabeth b 1873 Stratford # 13078
7. Alice b 1876 Stratford # 19597 d aged 2 months 1876 Stratford # 13400
Charles NEANDER { b at Sea} m Emma KINGTON 1870 # 2749
No issue.
No marriage for this couple Robert NEANDER and Mary Ann FINNEY but here are their children:
1. Chrales William b 1867 Sale # 24262
2. Robert Henry b 1869 Walhalla # 25392
3. Celina b 1871 Walhalla # 12650
4. Louis Gottlob b 1875 Walhalla # 20074
5. Charlotte b 1877 Walhalla # 12188
6. Edward b 1878 Walhalla # 26190
7. Rose b 1880 Walhalla # 25778
8. Alice b 1887 Walhalla # 7416
9. Arthur John d 1888 aged 14 Walhalla # 7957
Charles NEANDER { b Sale} m Rose Elizabeth HARRISSON 1888 # 8602
Alfred Lewis NEANDER { b Portland } m Mary Ann FALLA 1875 # 2779
1. Nelly b 1876 Creswick # 1939
2. Louisa Maxwell b 1878 Melb # 17505
3. George Henry b 1880 Creswick # 14920 d 1880 aged 4 months # 10032
4. Alice b 1881 Footscray # 16648
5. Alfred Gordon b 1885 Footscray # 17762
6. Mary Ann b 1887 Brunswick # 8886 d 1887 aged 1 day # 5401
William NEANDER { b Portland} m Frances Ann GREEN 1875 # 4503
1. William Joseph b 1876 Stratford # 19580
2. Robert Henry b 1877 Stratford # 25363 d 1879 # 3179
3. Joseph Henry b 1880 Stratford # 19058 d 1880 aged 3 weeks # 8600
4. Ernest George b 1881 Stratford # 26480 d 1883 aged 21 months Cmerang # 7876
5. Elizabeth b 1883 Stratford # 12840 d 1886 aged 2 Walhalla # 3953
6. Frances Ann b 1886 Walhalla # 14527
7. John b 1888 Moe # 22832
Lewis NEANDER { b Portland} m Eliza WILLIAMS { b Windsor} 1886 # 7112 { Eliza was married to John WILLIAMS in 1879, her maiden name was CAFFYN . She had 2 daughters by him}
1. Florence May b 1888 Fitzroy N # 2904
Mr NEANDER d Age adult no parents recorded or birth or death place # 2M { Marine Death}
Ann NEANDER d aged 63 Birthplace Germany - WERRICKE unknown no mother listed # 2322
From Marine BMD:
Mr NEANDER d 1858 . Adult. No parents. At Sea on board CHAMPION REG 2. Death 24 Death 8 Year 1857
I hope this helps a bit. let me know if you want me to follow these families further ;)
Regards
Alison
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Some thoughts....
Looking at the geographic locations of this branch of NEANDER's with AMELIA right there toowith them, I think we have to conclude there was a family relationship.
Tying them clearly to the SA family is difficult ::) and tying AMELIA precisely is also difficult ???
Who was the informant on AMELIA's death certificate?
You would think with that many of the NEANDER family around, it would be hard for there to be a mistake in the parentage listing.
There are a number of NEANDER burials at SALE Cemetery.
Of interest...... and adding to ALISON's information
NEANDER Ann.(nee WERNICKE) Aged 63 years buried 16/ 1/ 1868. Born Germany.Location not given.
This would be HANNAH, GOTTLEIB's wife.
Sue
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thanks for all the information, has shed more light than expected on this branch in the family.
should be able to get in touch with others researching this family with such a large chunk.