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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: bikermickau on Thursday 21 April 11 07:09 BST (UK)
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Are there any problems with the 1851 Census at Ayrshire.
I'm missing 2 Doran families whose BMD registration records and later Census indicate that they were in Kilmarnock before and after 1851.
I've looked on Ancestry (shows 2) and FreeCEN (shows 0)
Scotlandspeople does show 9 matches for Dora*, 14 for Dor* in Kilmarnock, however at this stage I prefer not to use credits on Census's. I may in the future.
Patrick Doran 1814/1816 Ireland, wife Helen
David Doran 1822 Ireland, wife Catherine
Mick
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Hello Mick
The 1851 census for Kilmarnock is missing. You can check this on Scotlands People without logging in. Just go into the Home Page, then click on 'About Our Records', then on Indexes. There's a menu on the right, and you'll find Censuses with a sub-heading of 'Missing Censuses' which has a list of all the missing censuses throughout Scotland.
Hannah
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Hannah,
Thank you
Ancestry didn't list Kilmarnock on their Known problems with the 1851 Census:
Mick
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Yes the 1851 census for Kilmarnock, was originally missing from Scotlandspeople, i think however that situation was rectified quite some time ago.
Mick, your families are there in 1851. Kilmarnock, census, although what looks like the David, and Catherine, come up with the unusual spelling of Down, instead of Doran.
There does not seem to be any pre 1855. birth registrations for any children of either couple, but David, and Catherine, have some unusual spellings of some of there childrens surnames after 1855, which correspond with census information that it is their children.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Hello Mick, this is a index for the 1851. census for Kilmarnock, Ayr, limited information.
Doran Patrick, age 36 years, Kilmarnock.
Doran Ellen, age 36 years, Kilmarnock.
Doran Mary, age 14 years, Kilmarnock.
Doran Catherine, age 11 years, Kilmarnock.
Doran Patrick, age 3 years, Kilmarnock.
1861. index Kilmarnock, Ayr. limited information.
Doran Patrick, age 47 years, Kilmarnock, Born Ireland,
Doran Helen, age 45 years, Kilmarnock, born Ireland,
Doran Patrick, age 13 years, Kilmarnock, born Kilmarnock,
Doran Elizabeth, age 6 years, Kilmarnock, born Kilmarnock.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Thanks Jonn,
1851 Census index on Ancestry was the only census I couldn't locate for both families.
I have almost all the BMD registrations in Scotland for David and Catherine's chlidren, also for children of their son Hugh and his wife Helen (Ellen)
Their childrens Baptism records are shown on Scotlandspeople as at St Joseph's Catholic Church, Kilmarnock. These include birth date.
Earlier than 1844 I think the Baptism records are at Ayr for Patrick's children. I've not yet checked.
Yes their surname spelling varied, most start wilh Dor, a couple are Dolan. David always signed with his mark.
Mick