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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: rallso on Wednesday 20 April 11 19:20 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have any idea :-[ what sash my wifes grandfather has
in the 1911 census he says he was born in thornhill.
All records of births 1863 were destroyed so we cannot trace his ancestry.
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Can anyone help???
Roy
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Hello Rallso. Do you have any marriage details i.e. his father's name? There is a Michael Carney Baptism on the following websites. You would have to pay to view -
www.mayoancestors.com - Michael Carney Baptised 1863
Father's initials: MC - Mother's initials: BC
www.brsgenealogy.com - also has a Baptism for Michael Carney 1863
This is a very expensive way to find out if its your relative. Euro 5 a search
Madri
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Does seem a bit much
when we have our freeBDM
All I know is that his father was Thomas
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Civil registration of births didn't start until 1864- all civil registration records survive and the index can be searched (free)-
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
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Hello Rallso. Well at least it's ruled out the above Baptism. On brsgenealogy there are 2 Michael Carney's with father Thomas -
a) Michael Carney / church baptism / 1860 / County Mayo
b) Michael Carney / civil birth / 1864 / County Mayo
one of these may or may not be yours. Have you checked/viewed LDS film for the Thornhill area? Do you have a LDS Family History Centre near you?
http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irlmay/townlands/Thornhill.htm
Madri
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What is an LSD GENEOLOGY CENTRE? ???
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WOULD HAVE BEEN ON A CATHOLIC PARISH RECORD
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LDS = Latterday Saints (commonly known as Mormons). See here to find your nearest LDS library-
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp
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Here is an interesting website of baptisms in County Mayo with quite a few Carneys on it.
Also be sure to look for "Kearneys" too, as often the spellings are interchanged. ::)
Deborah
http://www.mocavo.com/visit?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffreepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2F~gchung%2Fcoyle%2Fkiltimaghbaptisms.htm
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Hello Roy,
Was it 1911 English census that Michael states Thornhill?
Is that the only intimation of his birthplace that you have from census info?
The Thornhill that madri refers to is in Oughaval parish - near Westport on a map.
However, browsing for Thornhill also shows up a place called Knocknasgeagh which is also known as Thornhill. This is near Kiltimagh where the baptisms are that gracie mentions.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-MAYO-KILTIMAGH/2002-10/1033584763
Where did Michael marry? Have you got that info - he would have given his father's name on his marriage certificate.
regards
heywood
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Hi
Yes Michaels wedding cert did say Thomas was his father
It is interesting that you say that Thornhill was near Kiltimagh.
His Work Friend who is still alive today says that is where came from .
So I think we are on the right track.
Many thanks for your help I think I know have something to work on
Any idea what the sash and rosette is !!
Regards Rallso
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Sorry- no idea re the sash and rosette. It's difficult isn't it without colour and there seems to be no writing etc on it to identify it.
Do you know where the photo was taken - Ireland or England? Or his approximate age when taken?
Was he active in the church? Could it be a church organisation?
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I think the photo might have been taken in Handsworth,West Bromwich
he married in 1894 and lived in Beech tree Cottage near Kingstanding.
He was 28 when first recorded on the 1891 census.
Regards Roy
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Hello Roy. Which 1911 Census is your Mr Carney on? The England or Ireland Census?? Can you give us the reference nos please.
Madri
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Hi Madri
On the English census.
Didn't know there was an Ireland census.
Roy
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The number of the schedule was 62
Can't see any ther reference on the page