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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Kiwicol on Tuesday 19 April 11 00:45 BST (UK)
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Nov. 7. 1723 Robert Jackson and Eliza Brett married Norfolk County Parent/Surety/Reverend Solomon Wilson
This couple had at least 7 children all said to be born at Yorktown, Virginia
John abt. 1730 - 1777 Royal Navy Surgeon, died in Jamaica
Joseph abt. 1731 - 1800 Captn. Royal Navy married Mary Sax. Died in England
Robert, died about 1770
Frances born abt 1735 - 1809, married twice in England to Henderson and Bickerton, died in England
Mary Ann abt 1738 died in England 1792
Rosannah abt 1746 died in England 1828
Elizabeth Brett abt 1747 died in england 1800
Above information derived from various burkes baronetages.
They state that Robert was:
Surgeon "H.M.S. The Captain" in 1748.
a Major with General Wolfe in the war in America (Quebec?) but as he died in 1756 at Chatham Kent i think that would rule out anything to do with Wolfe in America
Anything about this family in America most appreciated
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Evening Colin Prior to the HMS Captain Robert can be found on the "William and Betty" which appears to have sailed between Virginia and Bristol. on British Archives can be found prize money owed to him on this ship also the wages book of the HMS Captain is now available but was going to cost over 1300 pounds for a copy of the relevant years 1744 to 1756 I presume. If Elizabeth is indeed related to the Earl of Clarendon this would infer the Bridgewater Bretts but no proof. The odd thing is that Robert is mentioned in the Burgesses and prominent persons of Yorktown Virginia. A map of where he lived can also be found which was then taken over by a Merchant named Robert Jackson.
How far have you got back on Charlotte Spry Gorham? She's a Plantanganet
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Where did you find the references to him in that Yorktown source? and the map would be nice
Have only got Charlotte Spry Gorham's mother back to the humes and spry's, had one of their descendents drop in a month back, he was passing thru australia doing genealogy, and the Gorhams and tilleys back to 1500's
What is the Plantagenet link
And lastly how do you connect?
Is the T for Terrance and born 1956?
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Yes Terrance 1956 excepting it's Terence. The email I have got for you was hijacked by somebody wanting money and doesn't appear to work any more.
The Wiliam and Betty through UK Archives but can be found with search. The map I'll have to find the link but it may be ColonialWilliamsburg Research Centre or CapeCod Genealogical Society.
For the Gorham's search Hugh De Gorham and there is quite a bit about them. St Albans Abbey. Hugh married the Great grand daughter of William Plantangenet, daughter of William L'Angevin.
I've got some more files relating to Jackson's and Grace's in NZ and I'm connected through Charles Welby J via GFWJ through GFWJ then JRJ then myself JTJ.
There's a reasonable amount about the Howlands through to 1500's but I haven't found much on the Tilley's.
LDS has the original records for Jamaica on line but no mention of Dorothy Coverley's maiden name. Nathaniel's family looks to have come from Barbados. Hannah had a sister that had three children from three fathers but no marriage that I can see.
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Has anything further developed in this line of inquiry? I am trying to follow the same track (Jacksons). Also, Colin, is your email address working?
DN
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Hi DN,
Welcome to RootsChat
I am sorry but Colin's emails are no longer working and we have been unable to make contact with Colin :'(
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah.
John Jackson: For some reason the forum won't let me reply to your personal message. Thanks for the Jackson information. To answer your question, my link to the Jackson clan in NZ: grandmother Connie Jackson > Fenwick Williams Pasely Jackson > Henry Jackson > John Jackson etc
I'm keen to find out more about John Jacskon's first wife, Maria Hermanagilda Paisley, Henry's mother who died in Macau in 1830, the year Henry was born.
DN
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Good afternoon
My grandfather (Gordon Francis Welby Jackson)said that John found her abandoned and destitute and so took her in. Going by the fact that both Henry and Charles were put into the Indian military and not the British one can assume she was Indian or at least partly. The Portuguese in her name would indicate Goa or Southern India. Paisley was probably the name of the priest her christened her. I've looked for her on the EIC sites etc and likewise Paisley as a priest but so far no luck. John was sent to Sri Lanka to learn the tea trade but her name would indicate this would be an unlikely place to find her. My grandfather thought she was chinese(marriage in China?) but as Indians and Chinese hate each other so putting his sons into the Indian military negates that theory. Other members of your family descended from Henry do not like the idea of being part Indian but if she was Portuguese they would have gone into the British army as the British/Portuguese military pact is the oldest in the world so obviously there physical features were more Indian than British so they would have been rejected.
Regards
John
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I had another thought and that was seeing as Paisley is a Scottish name I tried to find her via Jardines who were the perveyors of opium as you are no doubt aware but could find no links. At the time the religious fraternity of thee British Foreign Office were taking over and making the English gentlemen give up their British wives which they almost all had as well as their British ones so a lot of them along with their children were cast adrift. The book Last Moghul Emperor covers this quite well in fact is an excellent book.
Bye for now
John
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The family legend says (probably about her) that she was a Spanish "princess" (plausibly Portuguese). If so she may have been one of two daughters of a (Scots?) sea captain and the daughter of a Spanish(?) landowner, who eloped. Somewhere in the families' collections of old photographs there is a portrait of a lady wearing a mantilla. My (distant) memory of it is that she was European rather than part Indian. We are trying to track down the portrait.
DN
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John,
Further thoughts. You said above, "John was sent to Sri Lanka to learn the tea trade but her name would indicate this would be an unlikely place to find her." What records do you have for his presence in Ceylon? There is a mention of him in the HEI Co's China bureau, in the The Asiatic Journal in the 1820s.
Ceylon was a Portuguese colony until 1658, so it is plausible that Maria H.P. and John J met there. This would be consistent with her being the descendent of a local potentate and a Portuguese colonial administrator. And translating "Ceylonese" to "Spanish", given a Portuguese connection, could be the family's way of "regularising" her ancestry. Also, Spain and Portugal were a single country up to 1640.
All speculation but may offer some leads.
DN
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John
Have you examined the Henry Jackson papers in the National Library of NZ in Wellington? They look very interesting indeed, but aren't digitised:
http://tapuhi.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/spydus/NAV/GLOBAL/OPHDR/1/12178
DN