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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Angus (Forfarshire) => Topic started by: KMcKenzie on Sunday 17 April 11 23:25 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I found sometime ago that my 4x Great Grandmother Elizabeth Fleming was formerly an Osman/Ossman. On her Death Certificate in 1877 her Daughter Mary McCormick gives Elizabeth's parents names as William Ossman (a Chelsea Pensioner) & Margaret Liddell. I have never heard of this surname Ossman before and am not too sure of it's origins or it's correct spelling. I have tried to find a Birth/Marriage for Elizabeth Ossman with no luck, and also haven't been able to find a marriage or birth for William Ossman. It almost sounds Dutch or or Scandinavian to me!?
Apparently, and according to Elizabeth's Death Certificate and the census' she appears in she was born between 1804 & 1809 in Montford/Montrose..if anyone has better luck than me at finding her birth or any other info on her parents PLEASE let me know! :)
Also, if her father William was a Chelsea Pensioner, does anyone know where i might find info on him?
Many thanks,
Keelan
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Maybe the daughter got her grandfather's name wrong.
There is a marriage indexed at the IGI of a Robert Osman to a Margaret Liddle at Montrose in 1805.
Variations appear to include Oseman.
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hi all :)
"sergeant robert osman of the 8th regiment of foot & margaret liddle of this
parish were proclaimed in order to marriage"
that would tie in with the chelsea pensioner :-\
ev
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Hi Both,
Thankyou very much for looking into this for me. I agree with you and think there must have been some mistake by Elizabeth's Daughter on her Death Certificate.
It is odd though that i can't find a Birth for Elizabeth, nor a Marriage either for her to John Fleming. Their Daughter, Mary Fleming was born around 1835 in Glasgow i think but i can't find a birth for her, nor any possible siblings.
I have found a possible family in 1851. There is a John Fleming who is a Carter Age 50 born in Rennyloanhead, Stirling. His Wife "Mary" who is 44 and was born in Montrose. Their Daughter's Nancy (Agnes) 18 & Mary 16 and a Son John, who is 11. There is also a John Fleming (Carter) & Mary Fleming in 1841, but there are no children listed - apart from that i have nothing on John & Elizabeth Fleming.
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Keelan
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What does Mary say about her parents when she married Daniel in 1856?
I can see that her mother is with her in 1861 and 1871 but like you I'm finding it difficult to find them before that.
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Hi, all!
I'm a little late to the party, but:
"sergeant robert osman of the 8th regiment of foot & margaret liddle of this
parish were proclaimed in order to marriage"
in Montrose.
Robert Osman is my 4th g-grandfather. Born in Chiseldon, Wiltshire 1766. He appears to have several brothers and sisters and his father (possible James Osman m/ Elizabeth) seems to have family there as well. All the dates look fantastic, but I'm still verifying this info. I just came across it today.
I also have James Fleming Duff (b. ~1850), 7th child of John Duff (b. ~1817) and Jane Osman (b. 1816).
The Osman/Duff family were in Linlithgow and Bo'Ness, West Lothian.
Eileen