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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: yeldhammer on Sunday 17 April 11 18:04 BST (UK)
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My G/Grandmother Joan/Joanna Farish came from Annan married Peter Davis a sailor(?) and died in Carlisle any information please. Could someone tell me also if Farish is a sett of the Ferguson clan.
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Hi
Can we have a timescale please? When was she born, when and where did she marry (England or Scotland) , when did she die?
Can you also clarify exactly what type of info you are looking for and also tell us what you already have so we don't duplicate it
The only Joan Farish b Dumfries was b 1850 Kirkbride/Durrisdeer and was Joan Ann
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Yep sorry about the lack of detail she was born in Annan about 1800 and I believe got married to Peter Davis in 1821 in Annan, during the mid 19th century she moved with her family to Carlisle where she died the date I dont know. I should say also she was my G/G/Grandmother.
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I take it this is the marriage you are refering to:
JOAN FARISH = PETER DAVIS
13 NOV 1821
Annan, Dumfries
(IGI extracted record)
Have you checked this marriage on Scotland's People in case it gives further information?
Do you have the family in any censuses? Did Peter die in England or Scotland?
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Wiki gives these as Septs of Ferguson Clan which sound closest to Farish:
Farries, Ferrie, Ferries, Ferris(s)
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Sometime ago I had information from somewhere that what could be the family were living in 177 Burgh South Side Annan in 1811 and 1821 in 217 Windmill. Peter never seems to be around, the only Peter Davis I could ever find was actually born along the coast in Whithorn and I believe the same one died in Mile End in London, other than that presumably he was a sea most of the time. I have never been on Scotands People although I do keep threatening to go th the Records Office but never get there as i live in Southern England no excuse I know.
Once again I was told some time ago that Farish was a sett of Ferguson but the Clan records do not confirm this.
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Um, it would be interesting to know what records give the whereabouts of the family in 1811 and 1821 ... presumably this would be the Farish family? As it was before the marriage of Joan and Peter, then might Joan have been spotted with her family in 1811? The 1821 sighting may have been the marriage?
Do you recall who gave you this information? Were they also tracing the Farishes?
You really need to be using Scotland's People for Scottish research. :)
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Curiosity got the better of me.
I have downloaded the Farish/Davis marriage entry from Scotlands Poeple. If you send me your email address via Personal Message, I will attempt to forward it to you. Click my name or the scroll under my name to send a PM.
Unfortunately there is no further information. :(
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Do you know the names of all of Joan and Peter's children? If so it might be worth investigating the possibility that they followed the Scottish naming pattern, and maybe get a clue about their parent's names?
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Right o, I found this from a different forum in answer to a question you posted:
Information from .... a spread sheet containing very old census data for Annan.
Joan Farish appears on the 1811 living at - 177 Burgh South Side (living with - William (occupation - weaver), Esther, Peter, William, Anne, Joseph, Agnes Robert, Esther & Jonathan Farish.
She is also on the 1821 living at - 217 Windmill (living with - William, Aggie, Robert, Jonathan, Willie (a female), Esther & Peter Farish.
This might help anyone who'd like to try to help you. ;)
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Hi Ruskie,
Thanks for all the information you have supplied, seems to fit in my g/grandmother presumably being the Esther shown as a child in the family.
I know nothing about this side of the family so hopefully will go on from here.
Thanks again maybe as you say some other Farish relation may get in touch.
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Do you want Farish/Davis the marriage entry? If so, please send me your email address via PM.
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It appears as if my reply from the other night was not posted.
Ruskie, thank you very much for the information you provided. My GGG Grandfather was William Farish from Ecclefechan, in Haddom parish in Dumfriesshire. I would love to get my hands on the spreadhsheet to which you refer. How may I see this 1811 and 1821 census file/image(s)?
Respectfully,
Jason Mrochek
Texas, USA
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Could someone tell me also if Farish is a sett of the Ferguson clan.
It might be a sept, but a sett is the thread count of a tartan design :)
As for clans, it may be said to be a sept of Ferguson in modern times, but don't forget that most of the 'facts' about clans, septs, tartan etc were invented in the 19th century. In particular, assigning certain surnames to membership of a particular clan is very suspect.
G F Black's The Surnames of Scotland doesn't mention Farish specifically, but says that Farrie or Farries is from the Irish O'Fhearguis, meaning a descendant of Fergus, and it occurs in Dumfries-shire. The main base of the Ferguson clan was in Mar and Atholl, a considerable distance away in the days when the only available power for travel was muscles on land and wind at sea.
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It appears as if my reply from the other night was not posted.
Ruskie, thank you very much for the information you provided. My GGG Grandfather was William Farish from Ecclefechan, in Haddom parish in Dumfriesshire. I would love to get my hands on the spreadhsheet to which you refer. How may I see this 1811 and 1821 census file/image(s)?
Respectfully,
Jason Mrochek
Texas, USA
Hi
They are available from here as a pdf for £3.74 :
https://dgfhs.org.uk/product/annan-early-census-1801-1811-1821-2009/
Gadget
Also - https://shop.scotsgenealogy.com/acatalog/Dumfriesshire.html
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Also, a thread on this site. I'm not sure if the offer is still available though. Pam isn't on very often these days.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7206.153
Gadget
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Thank you!
It appears as if my reply from the other night was not posted.
Ruskie, thank you very much for the information you provided. My GGG Grandfather was William Farish from Ecclefechan, in Haddom parish in Dumfriesshire. I would love to get my hands on the spreadhsheet to which you refer. How may I see this 1811 and 1821 census file/image(s)?
Respectfully,
Jason Mrochek
Texas, USA
Hi
They are available from here as a pdf for £3.74 :
https://dgfhs.org.uk/product/annan-early-census-1801-1811-1821-2009/
Gadget
Also - https://shop.scotsgenealogy.com/acatalog/Dumfriesshire.html