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Title: William Thyne LIDDELL, Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Post by: seanybear on Thursday 14 April 11 04:31 BST (UK)
I AM TRYING TO FIND SOME INFORMATION ON
WILLIAM THYNNE/THYNE LIDDELL
THE ONLY INFORMATION I HAVE ID THAT HIS PARENTS ARE HODGEN LIDDELL AND BLAIR BURNETT SCOTT THYNNE/THYNE. HIS SIBLINGS WHERE BLAIR SCOTT LIDDELL, ROBERT LIDDELL, AGNES SCOTT LIDDELL, HODGEN LIDDELL (HENRY), ELIZABETH LIDDELL, SARAH LIDDELL AND HODGEN LIDDELL (HARRY)

WILLIAM THYNNE,THYNE LIDDELL WAS BORN 20.JAN.1842 IN GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND AND WAS CHRISTENED ON THE 20.FEB.1842 IN GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND

SO FAR I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND ANY MARRIAGE RECORDS FOR HIM!

PLEASE COULD SOMEONE HELP ME ???
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 14 April 11 05:45 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat seanybear.

I have located the family in the 1851 census. The William in this census, living with Hogden and Blair and other family, is 4 years old, giving a birth year estimate of 1847. You have a birth for your William of 1842? Is this the right William? Do you already have this census information?

Is it specifically a marriage for William Thynne Liddell that you are looking for? When is the last date and place you have any record of him?

[PS. It is a bit difficult to read your question because it's all in capitals - could you please change to upper and lower case?  ;)]
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 14 April 11 05:56 BST (UK)
Just having a quick look on the IGI there are a lot of William Liddell marriages within a possible time frame ... the difficulty is working out which, if any, is your William ....  :-\
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 08:13 BST (UK)
1861 they are living in Greenock

Hodgen Liddil 46
Blair Liddil 41
Blair Liddil 21
Robt Liddil 17
Willm Liddil 13
Agnes Liddil 11
Elizabeth Liddil 8
Sarah Liddil 5
Henry Liddil 2
 
 
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 08:39 BST (UK)
1871

Blair Liddell 50 Wife born Balfron occ Fleshers wife
William T Liddell 22 Son born Glasgow Occupation: Dabman  ???
Sarah Liddell 14
Henry Liddell 11

Address: 159 Pollokshaws Road Glasgow
 
 
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 08:42 BST (UK)
1901

Sarah Liddell Mckendrick 41
Jane Brown Mckendrick 19
William Liddell Mckendrick 15
David Brown Mckendrick 11
Robert Liddell Mckendrick 8
William Thyne Liddell 54 Brother born Glasgow Occupation: Paint Grinder
William Bennell Mclaren 22

Address: 187 Snowdown St Glasgow
 
 
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 14 April 11 14:35 BST (UK)
Good finds Sancti.  :) So is it looking like William didn't marry?

There is a discrepancy between that birth/baptism record (IGI extracted, I believe) and the ages of the William on all the censuses ...
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: seanybear on Thursday 14 April 11 15:19 BST (UK)
YES RUSKIE IT WAS A MARRIAGE TO WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

I WAS AWARE THAT HE WAS STAYING WITH HIS SISTER SARAH LIDDELL AND HER HUSBAND DAVID MCKENDRICK AT THE TIME OF THE LAST CENSUS RECORD THAT SCANTI POSTED
AND YES THE DATES THAT I POSTED IN THE OPENING MESSAGE WHERE CORRECT.

I HAVE ALL MARRIAGE INFORMATION ON ALL OF THE CHILDREN THAT WHERE BORN TO HODGEN LIDDELL AND BLAIR BURNETT SCOTT THYNE, APART FROM WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, ROUMOURS IN THE GRAPEVINE SAY A MARRIAGE WITH AN ELIZABETH S. (S BEING THE START OF THE SURNAME)
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 15:39 BST (UK)
The William who was born 1842 may have died and the name used again
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 15:47 BST (UK)
There is this marriage which is available to view on Scotlandspeople

1918 LIDDELL WILLIAM THYNE and STRATHERN ELIZABETH at ANDERSTON Glasgow 
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 16:04 BST (UK)
Also this birth on SP

1886 LIDDELL WILLIAM THYNE Male at HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: seanybear on Thursday 14 April 11 21:00 BST (UK)
sancti

With the two marriages that you stated above in the previous messages who does it state are the parents of William Thyne Liddell in both the marriage in Anderson and Hutchinson?

Moderator comment: edited to remove capitals.  Please use lower case rather than all capitals- the search engines find it easier, apparently  ;)
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: seanybear on Thursday 14 April 11 21:03 BST (UK)
Also this birth on SP

1886 LIDDELL WILLIAM THYNE Male at HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

The William Thyne Liddell stated in the quote above is William Thyne Liddell McKendrick the son of Sarah Liddell and David McKendrick
Title: Re: William Thyne LIDDELL, Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 April 11 22:22 BST (UK)
It should be indexed under McKendrick in that case
Title: Re: WILLIAM THYNE LIDDELL, GORBALS, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 15 April 11 01:16 BST (UK)
The William who was born 1842 may have died and the name used again

Yes, it certainly points to that. Seanybear, have you looked for a death for this 1842 born William? Have you looked for a birth around 1849 for the William who appears in the censuses?


There is this marriage which is available to view on Scotlandspeople

1918 LIDDELL WILLIAM THYNE and STRATHERN ELIZABETH at ANDERSTON Glasgow

He'd be an old groom if it's the right William ... (he's 54 in the 1901 census  ;)) However your rumour that William Thynne Liddell married an Elizabeth S seems true, but maybe the wrong generation?  :-\
Title: Re: William Thyne LIDDELL, Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Post by: sancti on Friday 15 April 11 07:12 BST (UK)
1891

Blair Liddell 92
William Liddell 43 occ Butcher
David McKendrick 34
Sarah McKendrick 31
Jessie McKendrick 9
William McKendrick 5
David McKendrick 1

Address: 7 Houston St Kinning Park Glasgow