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Title: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 13 April 11 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi All,

Am going to contact Kew to request a quote for a copy of an entry in the silver war badge roll...and just wanted to run it by the forum....to me the text looks like:

List b/a/1207

And under cause of discharge:

3q2/via/KR/2(b)1
a o 11/1917

Many Thanks
Paul

Image Removed - only a small section of the image may be posted for help with handwriting etc.
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 13 April 11 13:16 BST (UK)
hi,,,its 392  not 3q2   see

http://myancestors.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/paragraph-392-kings-regulations/
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: Billyblue on Wednesday 13 April 11 13:19 BST (UK)
I agree - 392.

Is the 1207 reference b/a/1207 or C/a/1207?

Dawn M
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 13 April 11 13:21 BST (UK)
so it looks like he was discharged under paragraph 392 Kings regulations  V1a,,,which is

•(vi) Having made a mis-statement as to age on enlistment
◦(a) Soldier under 17 years of age at date of application for discharge

Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 13 April 11 14:03 BST (UK)
I just think it's a C. Seems his parents wanted him back!
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: Lyn S on Wednesday 13 April 11 18:46 BST (UK)
Could it be 'List G/a/1207'?

Compare the 'G' with the one in 'GALLACHER' and 'GORD.'.


Lyn S
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Wednesday 13 April 11 22:02 BST (UK)
so it looks like he was discharged under paragraph 392 Kings regulations  V1a,,,which is

•(vi) Having made a mis-statement as to age on enlistment
◦(a) Soldier under 17 years of age at date of application for discharge



If that is the reason for discharge, then surely he would not qualify for a Silver War Badge which was for wounded soldiers, unfit for further service.

Colin
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 13 April 11 22:27 BST (UK)
Hi Colin..you are correct...from what what I can determine from his discharge papers, with help on WWI forum a while back, and family info it is XVI...looks like text is obscure/changed on this image which had me wondering.

I found a recent 2nd medal card...so he has Victory & British medal too.

From a family story, my mum recalls - he was hit in the leg from a bullet that killed, and passed through one of his mates before exiting and hitting him in the leg. Only 3 survived from his unit (?).

This happened at flanders I am told.

6 Pieces of bone came out of his leg after respite in donegal over the course of a year odd..and he kept them in a little bag until one day, accidentally, one of his kids (or my gran) threw them into the fire.


On the rest of the detail I will cross my fingers and ask Kew to quote me...I was given an hourly rate before rather than a inclusive price ...so bit nervous.?
Many Thx
Paul
 
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 13 April 11 22:37 BST (UK)
Lyn...I think u could be dead right on on the letters equally..I never spotted the G!

Working in reverse I have his badge number on the silver star too. 
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 14 April 11 00:13 BST (UK)
Make that 13 pieces of bone, my mum is alive and well and has many stories from my grandad that I am trying to document/get info on:)
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PrueM on Thursday 14 April 11 00:41 BST (UK)
family info it is XVI...looks like text is obscure/changed on this image which had me wondering.

Sorry Paul, but I think the writing on the card is quite clear, i.e. "VIa".  There's nothing to suggest that there was an "X" in there at any time...
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Thursday 14 April 11 01:05 BST (UK)
Are you sure you have the right records? I'm not an expert, but I would have thought that the red entry saying 'Name Erased' would mean that his records were revoked and there would be no medals awarded.

Colin
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 14 April 11 01:19 BST (UK)
Hi Folks..

See link..http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,520464.msg3811909.html#msg3811909

I think something is wrong on this MIC - and on high res it almost appears someone has retraced the wording as letters behind.

The images of his discharge papers I have the originals of..

Thx, Paul
Title: Re: Handwriting Help
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 14 April 11 01:25 BST (UK)
or rather I have his origional discharge papers...images uploaded:)