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Title: Help needed for McCracken family Colmonell
Post by: Brenda on Tuesday 12 April 11 04:33 BST (UK)
Can anyone please assist me to clear up the parentage of John McCracken.
 
His death certificate states:
John McCracken died May 13th 1886 [age 48] 114 Naiburn St Glasgow
Married to Elizabeth Gibbon...
He was previously married to Agnes Miller.

His parents,were  John McCracken [Master Baker] deceased & Janet [ nee McCready /McCreadie]

Janet was previously married to James Vint .IGI shows her born abt 1802 Glasgow married James Vint 1822 Glasgow.

I can't find a marriage record for Janet & John McCracken, or a birth record for John Jnr.

Various census show he was born in Colmonell, Ayrshire

1841 he was 7
1851 he was aged 16 Estimated birth year abt 1835
1871 he was 56? B abt 1815
1881 he is 39 Born abt 1842
Perhaps you can understand my confusion.

Cheers

Brenda
Title: Re: Help needed for McCracken family Colmonell
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 April 11 07:42 BST (UK)
Birth and marriage records may not be recorded

Have you found the father's death record to confirm his wife's name?
Title: Re: Help needed for McCracken family Colmonell
Post by: Brenda on Wednesday 13 April 11 07:21 BST (UK)
I haven't been able to find any record for John McCracken Snr.

Just going on the  marriage certificates for John Jnr stating his father as John McCracken
Title: Re: Help needed for McCracken family Colmonell
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 13 April 11 08:21 BST (UK)
1841 census with Elen showing as McCracken but I wonder if she is Janet's daughter from her 1st marriage

John Mccracken 40
Jinet Mccracken 40
Elen Mccracken 15
John Mccracken 1

Address: Dabrymple St Girvan
 
 



1851 census

John Mccracken 49 Head   born: Glasgow, Lanark Occupation: Master Baker Employing 3 Man
Janet Mccracken 50 Wife  born: Ballantrae, Ayr
Helen Hint 23
John Mccracken Jurn. 16 Son  born: Colmonell, Ayr occupation Baker
John Mccullock 23
Robert Simon 17

 Address: Dalrymple St Girvan Ayrshire

I wonder if this is them in 1861 with the usual transcription errors

Janet McCrockin 72 Head  born: Ballemtias, Ayrshire
Hellen McCrockin 34 Daur born: Glasgow, Lanark occ Housekeeper
John McCrockin 26 Son   born: Coldwell, Ayrshire occ Store keeper
John McCridie 5
John Mccoll 40
Arthur A Innieson 17
Burn Moore 19
Mary Donaldson 24


Address: 18 N Albion St Glasgow
 
 
Title: Re: Help needed for McCracken family Colmonell
Post by: Brenda on Thursday 14 April 11 04:37 BST (UK)
Re 1851 Census
Looks like the right family.Thank you so much.

HELEN RINT should read VINT. [Daughter from Janet's first marriage to James Vint ]

I have a copy of her death cert. Died in City Poorhouse ,Glasgow Aug 15th 1875. Name given as VENT, but it's her for sure, Mother Janet McCreadie father James Vent [ Vint]

Query re Janet's place of birth. The IGI record for her first  marriage gives her birth place as Glasgow abt 1802? But census states Ballantrae
I have tried everywhere but can't find a marriage record fer her and John McCracken, nor a birth for John Jnr