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Title: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: dermo on Monday 11 April 11 10:17 BST (UK)
Good Morning Shane

If you, or anybody else, have Thom's for these years could you look up the following addresses please?

1871 - 109 Great Britain Street; 49 Lower Kevin Street
1887 - 62 Irishtown Road;  76 Irishtown Road

Much obliged

Dermo
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 11 April 11 17:57 BST (UK)
1872

 109 Britain Street, Great - George Teasdale, tobacconist
 49 to 53 Kevin Street, Lower - tenements

I dont have a directory for the late 1880s but from the late 1870s through to 1894 number 76 Irishtown Rd is listed as doctors with the surname Doyle.

  1879  Michael Doyle,  M.D. surgeon and accoucheur
  1884    "                     "                "
  1894  Dr. Edward Doyle, surgeon, L.M., B.A., T.C.D.

for 62 Irishtown Rd

  1884  Mr. Edward Smith,
           Mr. John Condron, Kate villa
  1894  Mr. B. Cooney


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: dermo on Monday 11 April 11 18:43 BST (UK)
Shane

That's great information.  Thank you very much for taking all the trouble to dig it out.

Best regards

Dermo
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: MadeInIreland1971 on Saturday 18 June 11 21:06 BST (UK)
Hi Guys,

My great-great-grandfather, Edward Benjamin Lynch, a druggist, was resident at Kateville, Irishtown, Donnybrook in 1851. Can anyone advise me how I can further research this? I'm a bit of a novice.

Thanks,

Alan Lynch
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 18 June 11 21:31 BST (UK)
A possible listing appears in Thom's 1852 for Edward as follows...

  Irishtown Rd
   Mr. E.B. Lynch

It appears to be a residence, and no trade or occupation is listed for him, and there's no listing for him in the Apothecary or Chemists and Druggists trade listings.

I cant see any listing for Edward in 1850 - in either the street listing or index of gentry & traders. The directory dates relate to the year they are published, so they can be a little out of date by then. e.g. some of the details in the 1850 edition, could could have been researched in 1849 or even earlier.


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: MadeInIreland1971 on Saturday 18 June 11 21:56 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for going to the trouble, Shane.

From what I understand, the term 'druggist' might refer to a homeopath i.e. not a qualified chemist.

Thanks again,

Alan
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: jacqui63m on Monday 18 July 11 22:27 BST (UK)
Hi, Can anyone help me find an ancestor of mine Lancelot Weir. He was born Sligo 1852 and died at the young age of 28 in Dublin.
Family letters and the like say he was a Doctor in Dublin.
Do you have the resources to look him up?
Jacqui
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 18 July 11 22:38 BST (UK)
no sign of him 1879 - just one Wier included in the list of Registered Medical practitioners in that year :

  Marshall Weir, M.R.C.S.E., Dromore, Co. Down

No sign of him in the general alphabetical index either.

Had Lancelot finished all his medical studies when he died ?

His death cert should confirm his occupation.


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 18 July 11 22:56 BST (UK)
there's two Wier medical practitioners listed in 1877, the same Marshall Wier, and a Thomas S. Wier, L.R.C.S.I, L.K.Q.C.P.I, Enniskillen

As well a the death reference in the BMD Index, I also see a possible marriage for Lancelot in Dublin in 1873.


Shane

 
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: jacqui63m on Monday 18 July 11 23:56 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Thanks for this. Unfortunately I don't have his death cert. But he was referred to as a Doctor by his family.

The marriage in 1873? That is Lancelot.

Have you any ideas as to where else I could look?

All the best

Jacqui 
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 19 July 11 08:57 BST (UK)
his death & marriage certs should give a few clues... these are the likely index matches :

  Name: Launcelot O W Weir
  Registration district:   Dublin North
  Event type: Death
  Quarter and year: Apr-Jun 1880
  Age : 28  (est. year of birth 1852)
  Volume : 2 / Page : 516

  Name: Launcelot O Weir
  Registration district: Dublin North
  Event type: Marriage
  Year:   1873
  Volume: 7 / Page: 529

see :
 Details included on a Death Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html)
 Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: jacqui63m on Tuesday 19 July 11 09:59 BST (UK)
Hi Shane,

Thanks for this.
I doubt his marriage cert will help. He was only 21 when he married so he wouldn't have been a qualified doctor.
I don't have his death cert but the cemetery records have his profession as 'farmer'

The idea of him being a Doctor started from old family letters where he is referred to as a Doctor. And on his daughter's death notice he again is referred to as Doctor

What I need to do is find a way of seeing if he studied for his 'Doctorship' I would try The Royal College of Physicians but at an initial 25 euro charge, I'll have to leave it for now.

Thanks again

Jacqui




Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: Bluey!! on Tuesday 06 December 11 11:45 GMT (UK)
Hi there! I am new here and hope I am asking in the right place.....
Dr. Edward Doyle, surgeon, L.M., B.A., T.C.D. is listed here - I think he may have been my relative married to Ellen Mulloghan. Is there anyway you could please help me find out? Thx again. Michelle.
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 06 December 11 11:54 GMT (UK)
Here's that Edward Doyle on the 1901 census living at Irishtown Road. He's a widower with two sons and a daughter, ranging in age from 16 to 19.

see Doyle household - 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_East___Donnybrook/Irishtown_Road/1285191/)


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 06 December 11 19:15 GMT (UK)
I dont believe that Edward's wife's name was Ellen - I've found a possible marriage for him with an address on the same street as above in 1879 which I'm following up to check if this information fits with the children's births.

I'll post more details when I've confirmed them.

Hi there! I am new here and hope I am asking in the right place.....
Dr. Edward Doyle, surgeon, L.M., B.A., T.C.D. is listed here - I think he may have been my relative married to Ellen Mulloghan. Is there anyway you could please help me find out?
...

Are you a descendant of this Ellen and an Edward Doyle ?
Maybe a birth cert for one of their children would be the way to progress as this would confirm the couples full names, and also the occupation of the father, and an address which might help locate the family on the census ..


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: Bluey!! on Tuesday 06 December 11 22:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your fast reply Shane! I will get a death certificate for their daughter Maria. I know I took too many steps back......On her marriage certificate her Dad is listed as a doctor. Will check some more.
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 07 December 11 08:16 GMT (UK)
Is Maria's father also named Edward ?

Maybe there are other Dr. Edward Murphy's - might be worth checking the census returns. Do you have an approximate year of birth for Maria ?

You didn't mention where your Maria died... but it's worth noting that Irish and English death certs are not very informative in term of family history...


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 07 December 11 10:08 GMT (UK)
..76 Irishtown Rd is listed as doctors with the surname Doyle.

  1879  Michael Doyle,  M.D. surgeon and accoucheur
  1884    "                     "                "
  1894  Dr. Edward Doyle, surgeon, L.M., B.A., T.C.D.
....

I believe this Edward A. Doyle married Angela Mary Wade in Sept. 1879, and she died in 1884. I dont see baptisms for the children on IrishGenealogy, but they are possibly in Star of the Sea, Sandymount, which is not included in the online records.

Angela is buried in Glasnevin cemetery. Edward is listed at the same Irishtown Rd. address up to the 1930s.



Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: columbus1947 on Thursday 27 September 12 06:59 BST (UK)
Good Evening

I don't know if Thom's Directory also covered Belfast in 1871 but if it did I would be most pleased if you, or someone else, would please look up the address of:

A. Macready, cabinet maker. (think the A stands for Alexander but not certain)

He was one of the witnesses at the wedding of my G-Grandfather William Macready on January 21, 1871 in Belfast.

Very much obliged to you

Colum(bus1947)
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 27 September 12 09:29 BST (UK)
....
I don't know if Thom's Directory also covered Belfast in 1871 but if it did I would be most pleased if you, or someone else, would please look up the address of:
......

The Thom's directories are Dublin based - street and trade listings for the city and county. Just limited details for the rest of Ireland for solicitors, officials and clergy etc

There are various links to Belfast directories on the Antrim board e.g. LennonWylie, PRONI etc

See : Antrim Resources (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,330.0.html)


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: columbus1947 on Thursday 27 September 12 15:31 BST (UK)
Hello from British Columbia!

Thanks for the information about Thom's.  The Lennon/Wylie directories are of course excellent but restricted and they don't have a directory for 1871 but never thought of it: PRONI should have that directory.   The good thing about PRONI is that it is government-based and they don't charge unlike the Scotland's People database which does and quite substantially.  I mention Scotland's People as our family has Scottish connections and am in the process of researching the Scottish ancestors. 

My G-Grandfather was a bookbinder and lived/worked in the Irish Republic from 1881 until 1895 and they had an address at Kearns Place, Kilmainham and my grandfather (who was a teenager at the time) told us that he witnessed the public hanging of Joe Brady, one of the "Invincibles" outside Kilmainham Jail in 1883. 

Grandfather also told us that his dad worked in Cork for a while so do you know if Thom's Directory covered Cork City or was it only Dublin-based? I ask this because one of Grandfather's brothers may have died in Cork as he is not in the family grave in Glasnevin.

Thanks for your quick response

Colum(bus1947)
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 27 September 12 15:35 BST (UK)
There are some Cork city and county directories available on the Cork Past & Present website, run  by Cork City Council, Libraries Dept. - see :

  http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/

see also the Cork Resources (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,369.0.html) board


S.
Title: Re: Thom's Directory lookup 1871 and 1887
Post by: columbus1947 on Thursday 27 September 12 15:38 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information on Cork and for getting back so quickly.

Cheers

C :)