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Title: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Seattle on Saturday 09 April 11 06:32 BST (UK)
After a long break, I'm back on the trail of my Shields ancestors!

Is there anyone who visits the Carlisle Records Office that can look up a marriage at St. Andrews parish church in Penrith? I've found a reference PR110/1

I'm looking for a marriage between Hugh Shields and Ann O'Neil in 1823/24.  Their first child, Elizabeth Shields was born 1824/25 in Penrith.

Many thanks,
Seattle
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: patrish on Saturday 09 April 11 15:12 BST (UK)
It depends what you are hoping to find from the entry, no address, occupation or fathers name are rarely  given pre 1837 only couples names, status, date, whether of the parish and witnesses.
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Seattle on Saturday 09 April 11 17:18 BST (UK)
Hi,

I was hoping the witnesses might give me a new clue to follow.  A long shot, I know, but I've hit a real dead end.
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Evie on Saturday 09 April 11 19:05 BST (UK)
Hi

Do you have them on any census please?

evie
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 09 April 11 19:25 BST (UK)
The IGI baptisms batch (C003022) for Penrith (St Andrew) has the following numbers of baptisms

1824 176
1825 189
1826 178
1827 158
1828 180

How many SHIELDSs? - None.

Likewise, there were apparently no SHIELDS marriages.  Perhaps they were a different denomination.
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Evie on Saturday 09 April 11 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

They could be a different denomination Geoff. I have Shields in my tree from Allendale and about and they were Quakers.

evie
Title: Re: Penrith Marriage - Shields/O'Neil
Post by: Seattle on Sunday 10 April 11 04:31 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff and Evie,

I found Hugh, Ann, Elizabeth, Joseph Hugh, John and Sarah in 1841 in Thurnham, Lancaster, Lancashire.  The 1851 census gave me their places of birth.

Elizabeth (1825) and Joseph (1827) were born in Penrith.
John (1832) was born in Wigton and Sarah (1838) in Thurnham, Lancaster.

Strangely, Hugh (1782) was born in America and Ann (1796) in Ireland. That's where the trail goes cold!  Ireland is impossible, because I don't even know which county to start looking in.  As the American revolution was going on about the time of Hugh's birth, the records don't give much in the way of details.  Only the head of household and number of people in the family.  Of course, I can't find any Hugh. 

I'll check the IGI batches again, Geoff, for other denominations. I think I've checked them before, but maybe I missed something.

Many thanks to both of you for your help.
Sharon