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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Angus (Forfarshire) => Topic started by: weasel1 on Thursday 07 April 11 22:48 BST (UK)
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Could someone tell me where Alyth, Angus is located
Thanks
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About 15 miles (as the crow flies) North West of Dundee, now in the county of Perth and Kinross.
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Anni B
So would I try to find birth records for early 1800 in the Perthshire section?
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Hi weasel
To be honest i don't know, I only know where Alyth is.....
You could try the Genuki site
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ANS/index.html
where there's an explanation of the various counties and administrative area Alyth has found itself in over the years.
Anni
Or indeed refer to RootsChats Angus (Forfarshire) advice on the message board
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Thank You Annie
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Hi weasel1
The MI's for Alyth are listed in the east Perthshire book
so I would tend to look among the Perthshire records (could be wrong)
testaments are with the commissariat of Dunkeld
Yours Aye
BruceL
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hi all :)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyPerth.htm#A
the batch numbers for alyth are all in perthshire
ev
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Thanks every one. I have a problem though. When I look on IGI family search I find Janet Deuchars born abt 1811 Alyth Angus father Patrick, spouse William Hunter m 24 May 1832 but I can find no mention of Janet in the IGI batch numbers for Perth of a Janet born with that father.
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those records are submitted not extracted
william hunter & janet deuchars marriage 22 june 1832 dundee angus is the
extracted entry
1841 brown street dundee
william hunter 30 machine maker b. outside census county
janet deuhers 30 b. OCC
elisbath hunter 2 b. angus
elizabeth hunter birth 15th sept 1838 baptised 30th sept 1838 dundee angus
parents william hunter and janet dewhars(extracted entry)
perhaps........
batch number c113285
janet deuchars birth 19th feb. 1812 baptised 3rd march 1812 alyth perth
parents peter(patrick?) deuchars and ann niving
do you have a death certificate for janet ?
ev
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EV
No I do not have the death certificateat this time. I have a couple of other records that I would like to get and I was going to order them at the same time. Thank you for your time and effort everyone.
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Most of the parish of Alyth is in Perthshire. The old records are arranged by parish, so even if a place is in the Angus bit of Alyth, it will be in the records under Perthshire.
In 1975, when counties were abolished as local government units, Alyth became part of Perth and Kinross District. There is no 'county of Perth and Kinross'.
In the IGI, anything 'submitted' is automatically suspect unless there is a matching 'extracted' entry, because you don't know whether it has been generated by good research or by someone's imagination or wishful thinking (or worse!). In this case there is an 'extracted' entry for the marriage so that can be regarded as reasonably reliable, and you should be able to find and check the original marriage entry at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.
It's not immediately obvious where William's and Janet's 'submitted' birthplaces and dates of birth came from. It can't be the 1841 census, because the 1841 didn't list birthplaces. It could be the 1851 or later.
Bear in mind that the census is usually taken about the end of March/beginning of April. So anyone born between census day and the end of the year will not yet have had their birthday in census year, and will therefore appear as a year younger than they would if the census were taken on the last day of the year. So if, for the sake of argument, Janet was listed as aged 40 in the 1851 census (and assuming that the information is accurate, which isn't necessarily so) she would have been born between early April 1810 and late March 1811.
Calculating a date of birth by subtracting the age from the census year will produce the wrong birth year for about 3 out of 4 people!
I agree with ev that your next step is to find Janet's death certificate, assuming that she died in Scotland after 1855.