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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: julie1969 on Monday 04 April 11 00:56 BST (UK)
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im trying to find my grandparents who were my mums parents,they all came from scotland .my mum was elizabeth wardrop born on the 11th may 1942 ,and she came down to england in the early 1960s with my aunty may wardrop ,but she married a harry clark in the 1940s in hull east riding district can anyone help me please.
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Hi Julie,
Welcome to RC.
I'm sure you'll get a lot of help but you need to be a bit more specific.
Please supply more info..... names, dates of birth, marriage etc. Where are you stuck? Any particular brick wall?
Plenty of things we could suggest but need a bit more to go on.
Dave
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Quick look on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk shows 15 Wardrop births in Stonehouse pre 1855, to 3 sets of parents...
John Wardrop / Jean Hamilton 1818 - 1839
William Wardrop / Janet Frame 1812 - 1817
Hugh Wardrop / Janet Borland 1843
Hugh might be son of John / Jean
You could try looking at IGI for these families, census results, those specific births on SP (ScotlandsPeople).
On SP, look for marriages / deaths.
A lot of advice folk here can give you will depend on what you already know.
As I said before, tell us what you already know.
What resources do you have access to?
I'm signing off now, but others will be here to help.
Dave
PS - I have some vague connections to Wardrop via my paternal line (Forrest). That's the main reason your message caught my attention. I'm fairly sure I have some pics of Wardrop graves but I don't have access to my main PC at the moment to check.
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my mum was born as elizabeth wardrop on the 11th may 1942 in belshill lanarkshire,but i wanting know her parents ,can anyone help me please.
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Are you sure of your of your facts?
There is one Elizabeth McLaren Wardrop. She was born in Dailly, Ayrshire in '42. No other Elizabeth Wardrop born '41-43 in Scotland.(according to SP which is usually VERY accurate).
You won't get more info online but could order the record for £12 from SP, the link I mentioned.
GROS reference is 585/00 0019
If someone is going to the registry office in Edinburgh, or Park Circus in Glasgow, they might be able to look it up for you.
Ordering the document from SP at £12 could be worth the money. It will tell you a lot of info, particularly, the full names of the parents.
The middle name McLaren would suggest that THIS Elizabeth has an ancester called McLaren - does that surname appear elsewhere in your family?
That's going to take you back to the 1920s approx. From there, with the info you will have, should get you back a fair bit...early 19th century if not more.
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I've had a look on SP for marriages of Elizabeth Wardrop. From 1952 (i took an extreme), there have been 19 in Scotland.
Again, if you can tell us more, we can narrow that down. Do you know your Mum's married name? We could look for deaths too (sorry, but that's a fact). There have been 4 Elizabeth Wardrop deaths in Scotland since '52.... surnames.. Sharp, Braidwood, Frew and Barbour.
What are you hoping to find Julie? Will help if I can but need to know what you are looking for.
Dave
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Hi Julie and Dave
Welcome to RootsChat Julie :)
As Dave has mentioned, lots of people on RootsChat willing to help with info. Just need to take care with events and names. RootsChat is not a forum for tracing living people or events that are too recent :)
Monica
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Are you sure of your of your facts?
There is one Elizabeth McLaren Wardrop. She was born in Dailly, Ayrshire in '42. No other Elizabeth Wardrop born '41-43 in Scotland.(according to SP which is usually VERY accurate).
You won't get more info online but could order the record for £12 from SP, the link I mentioned.
GROS reference is 585/00 0019
If someone is going to the registry office in Edinburgh, or Park Circus in Glasgow, they might be able to look it up for you.
Ordering the document from SP at £12 could be worth the money. It will tell you a lot of info, particularly, the full names of the parents.
The middle name McLaren would suggest that THIS Elizabeth has an ancester called McLaren - does that surname appear elsewhere in your family?
That's going to take you back to the 1920s approx. From there, with the info you will have, should get you back a fair bit...early 19th century if not more.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I've had a look on SP for marriages of Elizabeth Wardrop. From 1952 (i took an extreme), there have been 19 in Scotland.
Again, if you can tell us more, we can narrow that down. Do you know your Mum's married name? We could look for deaths too (sorry, but that's a fact). There have been 4 Elizabeth Wardrop deaths in Scotland since '52.... surnames.. Sharp, Braidwood, Frew and Barbour.
What are you hoping to find Julie? Will help if I can but need to know what you are looking for.
Dave
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my mothers married name is Andrew and she married my dad jack they got married in 1968 in doncaster south yorkshire uk,my mum died on the 10th nov 1981 in barnsley south yorkshire.
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Hi Julie
As Dave mentioned, the only entry coming up on the birth index on Scotlands People for an Elizabeth is in Dalry Ayrshire. It may be that the family moved to Bellshill after Elizabeth's birth and that's where she considered home in later years.
Have you managed to obtain your parents' marriage cert to at least be able to confirm her father's name so that you can be more certain on your searches?
Monica
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im wanting to know my mums parents and who they were.
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Julie it would be better to keep all new posts for the other thread that has more information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=524873.new;topicseen#new
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i have found my mums parents :) :)
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Hi Julie1969,
Great news, that's a lot of your mind then. How did you find them? It is very difficult to search online in those dates.
Tam
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could you please check a date for my mum,it says on scotlandspeople that she was born in 1939 in bellshill in lanark.thanks
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Julie
As we have mentioned now a number of times on this and the other post on the General Scottish Board www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,524873.0.html, we only have access to the same resources as you are now looking at on ScotlandsPeople.
You are in a period where nobody has access to records, other than indexes, as have been posted by Sancti. You can do the same searches people here are doing on the official pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, which has been mentioned a few times. The cut off to view records (as images from the actual registers) on SP are currently:
Births 1910
Marriages 1935
Deaths 1960
Unless you are lucky and someone recognises all these names from their own family, you will have to order certificates to determine names and events after the cut off dates shown above.
We can't check the specific details on any birth cert from this period. You need to either order the cert or arrange for someone to look at the details on the birth entry at one of the main genealogy centres in Scotland.
I thought your mother was born in 1942 (from her death cert details in England). Why are you asking about 1939?
Monica :)
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it was my father who registered the death ,but must have got the dates wrong somewhere?. ???
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Julie, Sancti found another birth entry that he has already included on the other post you have for an Elizabeth born in 1942 in Bellshill (the year given on your mother's death cert by your father).
From what you have said elsewhere, you have now ordered their marriage cert. This will let you re confirm her age at the time she married and hopefully provide a parent's name. It should be with you next week if it's already been ordered. Might be an idea to hold off on any more searching until you have received it. You can't move back without verifying information as you go. It is really easy to go off track if you don't check and verify information.
Monica :)
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It is confusing for all to have two posts running at the same time on the same topic as you have here on the Lanarkshire board and the Scottish General board. Which one would you like to leave open so that all responses can be kept together?
Monica
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Julie
I haven't heard back. I am going to lock this post on the Lanarkshire board so that all future responses are made on the Scottish General board. The posting there is longer with more detail. www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,524873.0.html
Monica