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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: Johnsam93 on Tuesday 05 April 11 13:51 BST (UK)
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My GGF Thomas Glew and family lived in Easthampstead/Sunninghill until his death in 1919. CWGC in Easthampstead churchyard.
I have his marriage and details in 1901 and 1911 census records, but in 1891 can not find at all and have been all over the place trying to find his birthdate and birthplace as he has put down different ones in both 1901 and 1911 census records. I found from his small amount of army records that still survive that his birthplace most likely is Chichester and not ones on census records.
Even with this new info still have not been able to track him or his parents down at all. This may lead to him possibly being illegitimate as he has covered his tracks well so far.
Thomas married Harriett Cooper in July 1900 and had 8 children up to 1916. He was born around 1875/6
It is becoming quite a chore now as it is stopping me going back in time on the Glew side, the only dead end so far on my tree.
If anybody has any info on the Glew family that lived in Easthampstead, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks for any assistance.
John
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Could this be him in 1881;
1881 Census
4 Mulligans Cottages,
Burstow, Surrey
RG11/801/31/29
Mark TURNER, 20, Head, Unm, Farm Lab, born Sunney Hill, Berkshire
Susan GLUE, 30, Housekeeper, M/Unm?, Housekeeper Domestic, born Chichester St Francis
THOMAS Glue, 4, Son, Scholar, born Burstow, Surrey
Burstow, Surrey, is similar to Bexstead, Sussex, that Thomas says he is born in 1901 Census.
Could the enumerator misheard?
Susan is born Chichester also.
Trish :)
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Have you got the marriage cert of Thomas and Harriet from 1900?
Sept Q 1900 2c 869 Easthampstead, this would show father's name ( if he knew it) and solve the mystery :)
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From Family Trees Father is THOMAS but no Census for Thomas/Father Thomas has been found.
1891 Census, Thomas TURNER born c 1877, Buxton, Sussex, living in Sunninghill, Berkshire ;D
RG12/1010/121/41
Sarah is now Susan and indexed as Layan!
Marriage FreeBMD;
Mark William TURNER, June 1881, Reigate, 2a 231
On the same page is Susan GLEW
By 1901 Thomas has left home;
RG13/1167/33/12
Trish :)
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Wow, you do have to look outside the box don't you!! Thank you Trish and momo22 for replying and yes, on marriage cert. Thomas father is listed also as Thomas which when I searched like Trish I came up blank.
If Thomas was born in Bursted, surrey then believe it would probably come under Reigate district, but have had a quick look on BMD but come up with nothing with Glew/Glue and thomas spelt a number of different ways too.
It has certainly I think possed a few more questions than answers with your data Trish, but it is how it will be interpreted will perhaps hold the key.
Not sure what to make of 1881 & 1891 census as does seem to be links between Buxted, Sussex and living in Sunninghill, Berkshire. Also is it the same Mark Turner? As born different places too!!
I do produce some headaches!!! ;)
Any takes on the situation?
Thanks again to you both for your assistance.
John
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Sorry John I put Sarah instead of Susan on the 1881 Census (I have fixed it)
Serves me right for searching late at night.
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Who were the Witnesses at Thomas and Harrietts Marriage?
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Hi Trish, thanks for replies. So it is Susan on both 1881 and 1891 census records, correct?
The witnesses at Thomas and Harriett's marriage were Thomas Isaiah Cooper and it looks like Maria Dyson. Thomas Isaiah Cooper is Harriett's elder brother by about 9 years, but have not at present found out who Maria Dyson is.
Can I do anything if you point me in a direction? Only I don't mean for everyone to do my research for me just need other points of view to see if can finally track my GGF and move onwards down the Glew line which will be lovely and a surprise to my mum (Glew) also. I did track down some Glew cousins, but they have stopped communicating and not answering any of my communications which is a shame, as we were going to set a date to meet up and collect all our data into one pot, but it seems to have died a death unfortunately.
Thanks again.
John
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John,
I have been researching men from the Bracknell area killed in WWI - Thmas Glew's name is on the memorials at Easthampstead Chruch so he is on my list (have you visited the church?)
I too was stumped for the 1881/1891 Census entries until I found Thomas Glue who I am certain is the right man. His birth is in the Midhurst, Sussex district (Q2/1877).
Regards,
Andrew
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Hi John,
If you find that your Thomas is in any way linked to a James and Sarah Glue of West Dean, Chichester, and their son, Frank, and grandson, William Frank James, I have a distant link with that family.
Vicwinann
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Hi Vicwinann,
Thanks for your mail. I will certainly keep you in mind should my Thomas be linked to James and Sarah. I think I have a few more hours research and chat to aradgick about what he/I have found to date to see whether we are talking about the same Thomas, especially about his birth. Probably get that certificate to see whether it ties up with any info I have or is posted above.
Best wishes and may be in touch soon.
John
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John,
Sorry not to have replied to your private message. I am new to Rootschat and couldn't work out how to reply (answer: I don't think I can yet as I haven't posted enough messages!)
When I went back to check, I couldn't find Thomas's birth registration. BUT I think he may have been illegitimate but still somehow registered with the father's name (it des happen) so not showing up as Thomas Glew/Glue. If this is the case, then his mother could be Susan Glue, born Q2/1849 Chichester