RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: mlanglois on Tuesday 05 April 11 03:59 BST (UK)
-
Would anyone be so kind enough out there who may have access to either St Clement Dane's Westminster or St Margaret's Westminster records be able to ascertain or authenticate the birth of a Susannah Mary Pearce around the end of 1831 of beginning of 1832. Her parents are George Pearce and Mary Pearce (nee Bull). She was married in St Clement Danes and had a sister born in St Margaret's West, so I am presuming she was born in one or the other. Her census records indicates she was born in Westminster.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Michael Langlois
-
Hi
The registers for Westminster parishes are held at Westminster Archives. They are not part of the set of parish registers placed on the internet by Ancestry, which are deposited registers held at the London Metropolitan Archives and the Guildhall Library and some Bishop Transcripts of Westminster parishes held at the LMA (BTs yearly copies of registers made and sent to the Bishop - not always done and not without errors).
St Clement Dane registers are indexed on the IGI
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyLondon_including_Middlesex_(N-Z).htm#W
Regards
Valda
-
hi michael,
through familysearch.org the following information is listed;
mary ann pearce, father george, mother mary.
born 4th march 1832 st mary magdalene bermondsey.
possible link?
tony
-
Tony,
St Mary Magdalen in Bermondsey is not in Westminster, however thanks for your help. According to one of the census records she was born in (baptised at) St Margaret's Westminster.
These records are not on ancestry yet so I guess I will just have to wait unless someone has access to these records.
Regards
Michael
-
Hi
Not Susanna I am afraid but In case you don't have it
13th December 1840 - St Margaret's Westminster - Louisa Jane Pearce - parents George and Mary - resident Princes Street, St Giles - fathers occupation Brass instrument maker.
Rosie
-
Hi Rosie,
Thanks for that. I have that record from ancestry.com. Louisa Jane is Susannah's younger sister and born in the same place, St Margarets Westminster. Their father was a musical (brass) instrument maker, so that is correct.
Unfortunately the parish records for this church going back earlier aren't on ancestry.com yet, so may just have to wait, unless I go over to London and search them myself.
Thanks for your help anyway.
Regards
Michael
-
Hi
It would require Ancestry to approach Westminster Archives to have the same sort of contract with them that they have with the LMA and the Guildhall Library. As yet there is no information that those sort of negotiations have even been aired. Ancestry rather has its hands full indexing the massives of early registers held at the LMA and Guildhall Library. There is much work still to be done on those registers.
Regards
Valda
-
hi michael,
i have access to westminster archives, if its ok with you, leave it with me for now, i will be out of the country for a few weeks but i will look up the records for you when i get back and if i find anything i will let you know.
tony
-
Thanks Tony,
If it is okay with you I might get you to check a couple of others I have that were born in the same part. Which particular parish in Westminster do you have access to?
Regards
Michael
-
Hi Michael
Details of registers held at the City of Westminster Archives can be found here
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/libraries/archives/family-history/leaflets/
Dawn
-
Thanks Dawn,
But that costs. It costs enough for ancestry.com as it is.
Regards
Michael
-
Hi Michael
Dawn is answering your last question
'Which particular parish in Westminster do you have access to?' as Tony has told you he has access to Westminster Archives. Dawn has given you the list of parish registers that are held at Westminster Archives. Visitors to Westminster Archives have access to all of these parish registers. The parishes of Westminster are close together and people moved addresses regularly in London. St Clement Dane and St Margaret Westminster are not adjacent parishes.
http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Westminster/outline.htm
Regards
Valda
-
hello michael,
guess you thought i had forgotten all about your quest, sorry, it takes time to track things down.
good news, i have located two of the people, susannah and julia.
the other two i will have to extend the parameters to perhaps 10 years either way, some of the scans are difficult to read and there are times when other seekers are using the reels i need so it is a slow process.
i have copies of the scans and they are not brilliant so i shall give you what i can read and send you the scans tomorrow.
tony
susannah born 27 dec 1831 to george & mary. george is a button maker. can't make out the "address"
julia born18 august 1839, address 6 princes st, george is a musical instrument maker.
princes st is in the west end of london (oxford street area).
i will get back to you in due course, don't lose heart if you don' hear from me for a while. i'm still looking.
tony
-
Hi Tony
Can you confirm which parish registers you found the entries in?
Dawn
-
hi dawn,
those two were in st margaret's westminster (obtained at westminster city archives).
it appears that michael did not receive my post (according to his pm) can i re-post?
tony
-
See reply #12
hello michael,
guess you thought i had forgotten all about your quest, sorry, it takes time to track things down.
good news, i have located two of the people, susannah and julia.
the other two i will have to extend the parameters to perhaps 10 years either way, some of the scans are difficult to read and there are times when other seekers are using the reels i need so it is a slow process.
i have copies of the scans and they are not brilliant so i shall give you what i can read and send you the scans tomorrow.
tony
susannah born 27 dec 1831 to george & mary. george is a button maker. can't make out the "address"
julia born18 august 1839, address 6 princes st, george is a musical instrument maker.
princes st is in the west end of london (oxford street area).
i will get back to you in due course, don't lose heart if you don' hear from me for a while. i'm still looking.
tony
-
hi michael,
i have come across george henry pearce in 1844 in the st james register, nothing else is legible.
st james and st margarets are "twin" parish's
a lot of the scans are indistinct so i may have missed him in st margarets.
hang in there as they say (someone somewhere)
tony