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Looking for background on William Boyd born 1881 at Doagh son of Edward Boyd flax dresser born 1849 & Rachael (Lough) Boyd born 1857/58
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Hi,
From the new Family Search site William had at least two siblings,
3 Jun 1878 Jane Elizabeth born Doagh
19 Jan 1880 Rachel born Doagh.
Parents married in Straid Congregational Church, Ballynure on 30 Dec 1876. Fathers were James Boyd and William Lough.
Regards
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There's a will on the PRONI website for William Lough, of Kings Moss, who died 11th July 1902. It mentions daughter Rachael, and gives some other family information.
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx
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Many thanks for the information which I will follow up. Rachael is my great grandmother and she and her husband, Edward, and family came to Ayrshire but as yet I do not know when.
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kingkerswell. Many thanks for the information much of which is new to me. Hopefully it will lead to further family background and answers to a few questions.
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After further research I am now looking for more information:
Edward Boyd who married Rachael Lough in 1876, in Straid Congregational Church, Ballynure - his father was James Boyd and mother Jane (Kane) Boyd. Would be grateful for any help.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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If you could explain exactly what you are looking for we might be able to help find information or suggest where you can search next.
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Sorry, new to this.
I am looking for information on James and Jane (Kane) Boyd parents of Edward Boyd. James was present at Edward's wedding in 1876.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Yes, but what sort of information?
First of all, how do you know that James was present at his son's marriage in 1876? Father's are not always listed as deceased on the certificates.
Civil registration of births started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificates for James or his wife.
Do you know when their son Edward was born? this will narrow down the date of marriage a bit
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Thanks, a previous post gave me the name of Edward's father which I have confirmed through Edward's death certificate as Edward moved to Ayrshire and died in 1926 supposedly age 61 but I think the age is wrong as he would have been 11 when married! I am trying to gain more information about the Boyd line and all the information I have about James Boyd is that he married Jane Kane and his occupation was general labourer. I estimate Edward's date of birth to be 1860.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Further to previous posts I would be grateful for any information concerning parents and other family members of Edward Boyd born 1856. He was married in 1876 to Rachell Lough and his residence at the time of his marriage was Kingsmoss, Ballylinney. He was married in Staid at the Independent Meeting House according to the Usage of the Independent Denomination and the minister was James Bain. Edward's father was James Boyd, farmer. Is Kingsmoss and Kingsbog the same place?
Thanks
Silverofoxo
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Hi,
Yep, "Kingsbog" is the same place as "Kingsmoss".
[A townland in the SE of Ballylinny (aka Ballylinney) parish.
Named so 'cos all peat bogs were reserved for use of the Monarch's forces.
Folks living there were free of taxes (tithe & cess) but had to deliver a cartload of peat products (turbary) to heat the garrison at Carrickfergus twice a year.]
For an comprehensive search you need to cover the following variations:
[With the number of wills or admins listed at PRONI parenthesised here.]
"kingsbog" (7)
"king'sbog" (0)
"kings bog" (0)
"king's bog" (0)
"kingsmoss" (29)
"king'smoss" (0)
"kings moss" (2)
"king's moss" (10)
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"Doagh" is where the local registration office was located.
Folks from Kingsbog would record births there.
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A James BOYD of Ballyvesey contributed £20 to the establishment of the independent church at Ballycraigy.
[A townland lying next to Kingsbog, but part of Carnmoney parish.]
This chapel was run for many years as an outreach of the Straid congregation.
The Reverend James BAIN ministered there during 1836-1847, though spent his life at Straid, finally retiring in 1880.
[His picture can be seen in the beautifully produced book:
Ballycraigy Congregational Church 1805-2005 A.D.
2005
ISBN 1 870157 64 8
Much is said there about the origins of the local churches,
inspired by the evangelical mission of the Scottish HALDANE brothers from Stirling.
Many members were lost to emigration during The Famine of 1846/7,
but many were attracted during the great 1859 revival.]
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The BOYDs most likely derive from Ayrshire, as a sept of the Royal STEWART clan,
related to King James' big pal MONTGOMERY.
[Though maybe also from the Isles of Bute or Man.]
Ref: The Book of Ulster Surnames pp18-19
Robert Bell
The Blackstaff Press, 1988
ISBN 0-85640-405-5
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Use http://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
to have a look at some occupants of Kingsbog in 1864,
together with maps (based on the OS Memoirs of the 1830's, and modern-day OS) and satellite images.
Happy trawling!
Capt. Jock
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Capt Jock
Thanks very much for the imformation. I will look into all the sources given.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Hi again,
I've got some more specific info, analysis & thoughts for you.
[Including the likely reason why the marriage took place at Straid rather than Ballycraigy.]
Let me know if you want this now, or whether you would prefer to work it out yourself for a while ... :)
Capt. Jock
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Silvofoxo
I am a descendant of William John Boyd b1823 d.1891 of Kingsmoss Ballylinney
The Will of William Lough has given me information of my family too...Sarah Kidd being one.
I have Williams father as James mother Sarah Robinson...but too date no prof positive.....and William also had a half brother James
Capt.Jock
You are a tease.......please please I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW...lol
is Sliverofoxo related to me.
a very excited Steve...again ;D
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Captain Jock & Stevenson
Like Stevenson I would like to know the information asap as I am very confused!
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Why Congregationalists Associated with Ballycraigy Might Have Had to Marry at Straid
The Reverend David QUERN 1811-1893 was forced to retire from his duties at Ballycraigy Cg during 1876 (aged 65) due to ill health.
[Some operational interruption/confusion may have resulted at the time.]
Although he commenced his duties in 1848 he was not formally ordained until 1860.
[A gap of 12 years. Hmm ...]
His son, David Alexander QUERN, took over the pastoral duties during that 1876 year.
However, he was not formally ordained until 25-JAN-1877.
[A potential gap of 7 months, say.]
Presumably (?) both QUERNs would have precluded from offering their services to conduct a valid marriage ceremony before their ordination dates.
[In order to conform to the conditions of the great Dissenters' Relief Act of 1845?]
So, potential marriage celebrants would have had to call on other congregations/pastors for support.
The obvious candidate being the "parental" Cg church at Straid and its ministers.
The Reverend James BAIN retired from Straid in 1880, so was probably "getting on a bit" in 1876, maybe not too prone to travel.
He had served at Ballycraigy during 1836-1847, so may have been instrumental in attracting the family to the church.
Why is this important?
Records from Straid may throw light on the genealogies of folks associated with the Ballycraigy Cg church ....
[Sadly, the Ballycraigy Cg records are "missing" ...]
Capt. Jock
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Capt Jock
You are unbelievable! Thank you very much for the information and directing me towards Straid hopefully for further information. Can you throw any light on whether Edward Boyd had brothers and/or sisters which may also take me further in my search to find more about the 'Boyd' history.
Edward was born 1853, married at Straid 1876 and died in Stevenston Ayrshire 19 dec 1926.
He appears on the 1901 & 1911 censuses as living in Stevenston but I do not know when he left Ireland.
All of his 12 children appear to have been born in Ireland & I know that the first 3 were born in Doagh.
His father was James Boyd and mother was Jane/Jennet Kane/Kaine? I have no other information regarding them. I have been able to get more information on his wife, Rachel Lough of Kingsbog. Her father was William Lough mother Martha (Debouys) Boyd. I have come across variations on the spelling of her maiden name - De Bois, Dubois & Debouys. Assistance gratefully received.
Many thanks for all you help.
Regards
Silverofoxo.
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Hi,
Another variation of the spelling. 14 Feb 1855 William Lough married Martha DEBOYS in Carnmoney Church of Ireland, Belfast. Fathers were Samuel Lough and Robert Deboys. There is a will for a Robert Deboys of Kingsmoss in the PRONI Will Calendars.
Regards
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Many thanks Kinskerswell.
Checked some information on the LDS site and the name came up as Dehoys - possibly a mistake in transcribing the details.
I am finding more information about the Loughs and Deboys side of the family but will keep searching for the 'Boyd' side.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Silverfox
I am holding on to your shirt tail...sorry...... as your James could well be a brother of my William.
My family also had children registered in Doagh living at Kingsmoss along with all the other family members married into etc etc.
I have my fingers crossed
Steve
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Steve
I am unable at the moment to find out if my great grandfather had any siblings. All I know is that his father was James Boyd and mother Jane Kane. Edward was married in 1876 age 23 on his marriage certificate which suggests he was born 1853. He appears on the 1901 census as staying in Stevenston, Ayrshire but not on the 1891 census. He and his wife Rachel Lough had 12 cildren but I think 4 died very young. Edward died in 1926 and Rachel 1942 both in Stevenston, Ayrshire. Further assistance gratefully received.
Silverofoxo.
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SilveroFoxo,
Sorry, but I can't help you out directly w.r.t. BOYD genealogies in the area.
[However, I will send you a PM with some local anecdotes gleaned from 1950's memories!]
You should certainly check out the surname within the McKINNEY "stud books" for Carnmoney and the Tennison GROVES extracts at PRONI.
[W.F.McKINNEY was a local genealogist, a great friend of The Revd. QUERN.]
Your William BOYD was presumably employed at the mills in Doagh.
Most likely housed there by the employer - work days were long, so commuting was not an option ...
[Else at nearby Cogry (Coggrey) a few miles away, where BOYDs ran a finishing works.
There is mention of this in the 1830's OS Memoirs, and also in the 1880 Co. Antrim Directory.]
The BOYDs came in to Ulster mainly in North Antrim (Ballycastle) and at Newtownards, Co. Down.
BOYDs were in the Ballyblack townland in this latter location.
Our family's oral tradition has our possible origin from this area ...
[Tentative theory is that they may have been brought up from there to Ballycraigy by Francis TURNLY when he purchased that townland from Lord Donegall in the 1790s, moving up to the Belfast area (Hollywood) after his brewery business failed in Newtownards town.]
BOYDs owned lots of business e.g. quarries in Ballyhenry (?).
[Also the company who took over the Bushmills whiskey production in the 20thC!]
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The DEBOYS surname is a rich theme.
A single French Hugenot family who arrived in Ulster via Scotland.
[Timeframe presumably shortly after King Louis XIV's had removed tolerance of religious freedom, by revoking the Edit of Nantes on 22-OCT-1685. Frenchmen sympathetic to Protestant ideas - estimated at as much as 40% of the population - feared a repeat of the pogrom of 1572, ably depicted earlier by a Francios DUBOIS ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Dubois ]
A myth (started in St. CLARKE's "30 Centuries in SE Antrim"?) hinted that several Hugenot soldiers from the Williamite armies had settled Kingsbog in the 1690s - based on the presence of surnames like MARTIN, MONTGOMERY, DEBOYS, etc. - but this is not generally supported by modern-day local opinion!
Hugenot linen weavers settling in Ireland (Dublin, Port Arlington, Lisburn, etc.) initially had their own churches but were gradually melded in to the established (CoI) church.
[Though the BREAKEY family chose to be Pb.]
Will try to put you in touch with the main DEBOYS researcher.
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We have a photo of the Rockview Darts Club at Kingsmoss dating from 1950.
[Courtesy of the late Jimmy BEGGS.]
A very dapper Bobby DUBOIS was present!
Capt. Jock
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Hi again SF,
As promised I've sent you a PM, containing some BOYD anecdotes.
Also the DEBOYS research contact.
[Apparently, much of the DEBOYS family history is captured within "The CRYMBLE Files".
This was a family from Kingsmoss.
The files are now held by a lady in Glengormley whose grandmother was a DEBOYS.]
Happy trawling!
Capt. Jock
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Hi again SilveroFoxo,
Have sent you a PM re the possible "Plymouth Brethren" religious persuasion of a Kingsbog BOYD family in the 1950s.
This movement dates back to the 1820s in Dublin.
[Rejecting key tenets of Calvinism and Arminianism, as being non-scriptural Biblically.
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren or http://www.plymouthbrethren.com/history.htm]
Hopefully, this may help enliven your research ...
Revving Jock
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Capt Jock
Many thanks for your continued support. I have been offline, things now back to normal and intend contacting Iain with regards to my Deboys connection.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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... advise wetting your whustle appropriately before you engage ... www.calvinus.com ! ;D
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The Belfast Newsletter contains a few potential-full references ...
[Ref: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/Search.cgi ]
Docid: 266254
22-APR-1794 P3
Matthew LOUGH of Carnmoney,
(?) offering a reward for a stolen horse.
Docid: 31568
08-AUG-1760 P3
James BOYD & William LOUGH,
(?) attending a brown linen producers meeting at Ballyclare.
You'll need to source full copies of the original texts to ensure unambiguous facts.
[e.g. from the British Library's Newspaper Collection at Colindale.]
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Silverfox
I am holding on to your shirt tail...sorry...... as your James could well be a brother of my William.
My family also had children registered in Doagh living at Kingsmoss along with all the other family members married into etc etc.
I have my fingers crossed
Steve
I think you must've known my Palmer family who lived in Kingsbog in 1901 - Samuel Palmer the stationmaster - when he was killed on the railway the newspaper reported that a Boyd - I would have to look up her name [I would like to know more about them] - gave him a bottle of milk at the gates as per usual in the morning and he was his cheery self. Would you have heard of the Palmers?
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Hi!
Thanks for contacting me.
I am sorry to say I have very little information on my 'Boyds' other than my great grandfather Edward who was born around 1825 and who moved to Stevenston, Ayrshire prior to the 1901 census with his family. His father was called James and they came from Kingsbog. Other than that I am unabale to help but I am continuing my search.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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This is a message to anyone who may be able to help.
My "Boyd" family history centres on Kingsbog, Ballylinney.
Certificates show that my grandfather was born at Kingsbog in 1881. my great grandfather was married from there in 1876 (married at the Independent Meeting House, Straid) to Rachel Lough.
William Lough (Rachel's father) owned land at Kingsbog and his will indiicated that he left Rachel property (1902). 'Griffin' shows that James Boyd both rented from Hugh De Bois and rented to Rose Stewart at Kingsbog, I think he was my great, great grandfather. Robert Kane also owned land there and he may be a relative (father/brother) of my great, great grandmother, Jane/Jennet Kane who mariied James Boyd, 1837, at Prebyterian Church, Ballylinney.
I am looking for information re the history of Kingsbog and the community and whether Edward Boyd born 1853 had any siblings.
I am visiting Kinsbog very soon to have a look and perhaps get a feel of the place.
I would be very grateful for any assistance.
Thanks
Silverofoxo
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SF,
I've had some fun recently chasing down the 17thC history of the BOYDs in Ayrshire & Count Down. Powerful stuff.
[Felt the hand of history on my shoulder as I chased it through!]
The BOYD power base was at Deans Castle (Kilmarnock).
However, they also had a commanding seaside fort at Portencross (West Kilbride).
A natural son of the family (legitimised later), Colonel David BOYD, was granted lands at Tourgill near Largs, Ayrshire, in 1598 by King James VI.
[His stronghold was in the Brisbane Glen (Noddesdale Water) just a couple of miles NE of Largs.
Hmm, the hamlets of Whittlieburn lie there ...]
The BOYDs had fought a more-than-100-year-long local feud with the MONTGOMERYs.
This was finally resolved, and a mutual protection pact agreed.
Col. David BOYD had served in Holland, supporting William I of Orange against King Louis of France.
Hugh MONTGOMERY, of Braidstane (near Beith, Ayrshire), had also served with the Dutch forces at the same time.
[He was to become the famous big pal of King James.
The family held their lands in the barony of Giffen, such dating from Norman times.]
When Arthur CHICHESTER at Carrickfergus imprisoned Conn O'NEILL (looking to benefit from being granted his lands in Upper Clandeboye), Hugh MONTGOMERY engineered his clandestine release, bringing him over the water to Braidstane, promising to intercede with King James.
The upshot was that Conn was granted a royal pardon, but had to give up 2/3rds of his lands.
One third part went to MONTGOMERY.
The other third to his rival HAMILTON.
[He originated from the nearby village of Dunlop,
where his father was the first Protestant minister.]
There is a nice old map of the area.
[Ref: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Robertsonscunn2.jpg
You can see Beith, Dunlop, and Eglinton (a later MONTGOMERY seat) there.
Also Portencross, Largs and Skelmorlie (a 20thC MONTGOMERY seat).]
MONTGOMERY went in to County Down in 1606, creating Port MONTGOMERY (Donaghadee) and "New Toun, Ards" (Newtownards).
He was accompanied by several gentlemen, including Hugh HAMILL (of Roughwood, near Beith) and David BOYD.
David BOYD had been granted lands in Ballycastle townland, South of Newtownards.
[This is just to the North of present-day Mount Stewart.
His seat is reckoned to have been where the impressive Ballycastle B&B is now located.]
Just to the North lay the Ballyblack and Crossnamuckley townlands, in which BOYDs and WHITLEYs are known to be extant later.
[Griffith's Valuation, 1864.]
The MONTGOMERY estates in Co. Down passed out of the family in 1770, transferring to the Hugenot De La CHEROIS family of Lisburn (cousins of Louis CROMMELIN), who eventually built Carrowdore castle in 1818.
[Situate on the spine of the Ards peninsula, roughly mid-way between Greyabbey and Millisle.
A large quarry is a major feature of the village.]
Perhaps as a result of these timings and costs, some turmoil may have ensued w.r.t. land tenures and rents.
?Enough to make some tenants up stakes and move (e.g. to Carnmoney!).
[Especially ones with stone quarrying/building skills ...]
'Tis only a theory, but the evidence is growing ...
[Thanks for inspiring me!]
Any MONTGOMERY ancestry would be interesting to chase down.
They were co-controllers of Normandy with Willie the Conq in 1066!
[Hmm, some such folks lived beside the railway at the Moss ...]
Here followeth the usual Blight of the URLs:
http://www.clanboyd.info/outsideusa/scotland/
http://clydesburn.blogspot.com/2010/11/colonel-david-boyd-of-tourgill.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyd,_5th_Lord_Boyd
http://www.clanboyd.info/outsideusa/scotland/kilmarnockboyds2/index.htm
http://www.discovernorthernireland.com/Ballycastle-House-Newtownards-P3609
http://maps.nls.uk/os/25inch/view/?sid=74933242
http://maps.nls.uk/os/25inch/view/?sid=74933236
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Montgomery,_1st_Viscount_Montgomery
http://www.scotsconnection.com/clan_crests/Montgomery.htm
http://lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2010/11/earldom-of-mount-alexander.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/1289541/Skelmorlie-Original-Walter-Smart-History-1968
... and of course, the marvellous source of migration flow & settlement maps ...
http://www.HamiltonMontgomery1606.com/
Capt. Jock
P.S. Wednesday is "locals" night at the pub! Knowledge might be encouraged to flow ...
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SF,
Have sent you a couple of PMs re local info/contacts.
Particularly the BOYD, DUBOIS and LOUGH (now McCLEAN) families.
The KANE name appears not be known in the area nowadays.
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The MONTGOMERY connection just got very interesting.
They held the ancient lordship of Giffen, near Beith in Ayrshire.
One of their number scarpered to Carnmoney in the 1730s.
[The clan had supported the 1715 Jacobite cause, as had Lord MONTGOMERY of Mount Alexander (near Comber) - Hugh MONTGOMERY's grandson - in 1688.]
This new Carnmoney resident changed his name to GIFFEN, perhaps to escape attention.
[One of his descendants was William Fee McKINNEY of Sentry Hill.
His paternal-line ancestor, James MacCONNIAGH, had fought at Sheriffmuir in 1715, subsequently having his lands attainted, so also "emigrated" to Ulster soon after.]
Ref:
William Fee McKINNEY of Sentry Hill: his family and friends
Chapter 11: The McKenzies
Chapter 13: The Montgomerys of Giffen
Mrs. I.R. CROZIER 1985
ISBN 0 9481 54 00 4
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Best of luck on the visit!
Capt. Jock
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I have now confirmed that my great great grandfather James Boyd married Jennet Kane at Ballylinny Presyterian Church on 05/09/1837. My great grandfather Edward Boyd was born around 1853 and I assume within the Kingsbog Townland. So far I have been unable to identify if Edward had any brothers &/or sisters and any further information on his parents other than Jennet Kane born around 1816.
Any information available?
Silverofoxo
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Hi,
I'd be interested to hear what you found with this line as I think we may have a common ancestor in Edward Boyd who my father may have been named after. I in was named after Rachel Lough.
Rachel
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James Boyd and Jennet Kane had 4 children that I know of: James b 1845 Antrim; Sarah (my g-grandmother) b Dec 1848 Ballintoy d 8 Aug 1930 St. Paul, Minnesota USA; Robert b 1849 Antrim d Dec 1923 Antrim; and Edward b 1853 Ballylinny d 19 Dec 1926 Stevenston.
Edward had a child born Ballylinny 1899 and was in Stevenston, Ayrshire Scotland for the 1901 Census, so that narrows down the timeframe for his move to Scotland.
Do you have a year of birth for Rachel Lough? We have two possibilities but both are suspect. Also, I have their son John born 24 May in Antrim, but I dont have the year. Can you help?
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Hi!
Rootschat has changed they layout and I am a little confused at the moment.
I have sent a message but it has gone as a Personal Message which might not be available to you until you have 3 postings. If you send me another 2 normal message then you should be able to access your Personal Message which are only seen by you and me. Look forward to hearing from you.
Silverofoxo
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I'm not sure if PMs are exactly the same now but in the past then I believe anything sent before PM system activated may not get to the recipient so be sure to save a copy to resend after diadhuit190 has made 3 posts.
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Post #2: Sarah Boyd , born 1848 Ballintoy, daughter of James Boyd and Jennet Kane, married William Hugh Percy 22 Nov 1867 in Larne, County Antrim. William Hugh Percy was the son of William Percy and Jennet McMaw. (We show the parents of Jennet Kane as Andrew Kane & Sarah Thompson (1792-1865.) Everything we have found so far points to the Percy men as expert stonemasons. William Hugh Percy and his two brothers were, and all three emigrated to the USA. When Sara Boyd Percy's family arrived in the USA in 1886, her 18-year old son was already experienced in shaping stone & building with it and her younger sons also became stonemasons. We thought Sarah's father might also be in the quarry/stone business, although we have no hard proof. Today there is a James Boyd & Sons Quarries in Newtownabbey, Antrim but we don't know that they are related. Our thought was that Edward may have first moved to Ayrshire to work the quarry at Stevenston which mined marble-like stone and whinstone – hard, dark stone like basalt and dolerite – rock notoriously difficult to work with. If this was the case, he must also have been a talented stonemason. Do you know anything about him? Do you have the birth year for Edward & Rachel's son John, born 24 May in Antrim? Do you know what any of Edward's sons did for a living? We know only that James Boyd was born 1816 and married to Jennet Kane, and his daughter was very proud of the Boyd name. It seems both the Boyd and Percy families owned as well as leased lands, and they seem to have spent their lives in the Ballylinny/Ballintoy area of Antrim County. Would love to know how or when they got there or any other additional information about James Boyd b 1816.
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Post #3: Silverofoxo, found a Robert Kane b 1826, son of Andrew Kane who married Jane DeBois b 1827 in Ballylinny 22 Oct 1847. Jane was the daughter of Hugh DeBois. I think Robert is a good candidate to be the brother of our Jennet Kane, daughter of Andrew Kane. Jennet's husband James Boyd rented land from Hugh DeBois.
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Hi!
I have sent a second Personal Message (PM) to you with my email address. I hope it reaches you OK and you are able to respond to it.
Regards
Silverofoxo
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Hello, www.threetowners.com is a great site to search for your Ayrshire connections. I have Boyd's and Stewart's in my Ireland connections, also Boyd's in my Scottish side. I have family in Stevenston but they are not Boyd's, let me know if I can help.
regards Brosie.
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Silverofoxo, the intimation for Edward,24/12/1926, has him living in townhead street Stevenston, Rachel Lough his wife entered the details.
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I have visited both Ballylinney Presbyterian Church and the Ballylinney Burial Ground. The burial ground has a chart showing the names for each lair but does not indicate who/how many people may have been buried in each lair. How could I find out?
There are two Boyd lairs at least and I would like to find out who is there.
I have two funeral cards one for Joseph Boyd, aged 20 years who died on 20 Jan 1883 at the residence of James McMillan, Ballyhenry and signed by Jane Boyd and one for William Boyd who died at his father's residence Ballyduff on 12 Sept 1879 aged 19 years and signed by Andrew Boyd. Both are buried in the Ballylinney Burial Ground.
Any information on the above gratefully received.
Silverofoxo
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Hey I have just stumbled upon this thread and was wondering if there would be any connection with my great great grandfather John Boyd born and lived around Doagh 1878c-1934?
Many thanks
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James Boyd and Jennet Kane had a son Robert (1849 - 27 Dec 1923) who married Martha Adams. They six children, including two sons born c 1879: Arthur John and William John. Their three older siblings were all born in Doagh and a younger sibling was baptized in Ballylinny Presbyterian Church. I believe Wm John married someone named Maggie; Arthur John married Elizabeth Martin. Could one of these be your John?
We are still learning about this family, so it is possible there was a John b c1878 that we haven't yet found.
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I'm just new to this site-but I found it searching for my Boyd's and Kane's. I have a William Boyd to married Jane Kain/Kane/Cane. They had 3 daughters; Margaret, Jane and Grace (all born Greenock Scotland) before Jane dies and William marries Mary McLaren in 1857 (Greenock Scotland). I found the parent names (William and Jane) on the wedding cert's of the daughters Jane and Grace. (That's why I've spelled the Kane name several ways) Can anyone point me in the correct direction for William and Jane Kane? I have them in Antrim Ireland. Thanks!
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Hi,
9 Mar 1846 William Boyd married Jane Kain in Carncullagh Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney District Co. Antrim. The fathers' names were Thomas Boyd and Neal Kain.
Regards
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Kingskerswell-- :) Thank you! I needed a door to open. So many Thomas Boyds but I couldn't tell if he and William were related so I was nervous about going back that way. Appreciate your reply-
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My William Boyd was born in Ireland about 1825-1830 died 13 October 1897 in Greenock, Scotland. His father is Thomas Boyd a laborer and his mom is Margaret McNeil. On March 9, 1946 William married Jane Kain (daughter of Neal Kain) in Carncullagh Presbyterian by Rev. J Bellis. I have been looking back as much as i can and I am unable to find births for either William or Jane. Also, I cannot locate any other records for Neal Kain. Is it possible that these early threads showing a James Boyd and Rachael Kain could be related to my two ancestors? I also saw a reference to a Rev of the same church but by a different name- My spellings are all based on the information from the Ulster Historical record-