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Title: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: dawnlw on Saturday 02 April 11 20:02 BST (UK)
My Great Grandfather was John Alfred Sutton he was born in 1879 Belton, Lincolnshire, England. He married Ada Annie Swash on The 14th December 1904 in Belton. I cannot seem to find any birth records for him and the only census I can find him in is 1901 Thorne, , Hatfield, Yorkshire where it states he was a  Servant. I don't know what his parents were called, and don't know if he had any siblings. I just don't seem to be able to find any records for him. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 02 April 11 20:27 BST (UK)
1891 census

Hannah Calton 73 widow b Gawthorpe Yorks
John  A Sutton 12 scholar visitor b Belton Lincs

The Slack,Crowle Thorne West Yorks

RG12 3870/38/14
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: dawnlw on Saturday 02 April 11 20:31 BST (UK)
Thank you for finding this for me.
From Dawn :)
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 02 April 11 20:37 BST (UK)
Dawn,
A warm welcome to Roots Chat

FreeBMD has the birth registration of    John Alfred Sutton, Sep 1879, Thorne, 9c  715

This will enable you to send for his birth cert

regards
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: rover72 on Saturday 02 April 11 21:08 BST (UK)
1891 census

Hannah Calton 73 widow b Gawthorpe Yorks
John  A Sutton 12 scholar visitor b Belton Lincs

The Slack,Crowle Thorne West Yorks

RG12 3870/38/14

I think Hannah's surname is supposed to be Carlton and her birthplace as Garthorpe, Lincolnshire. In 1881 she is living her husband in Sims Hill, Belton and with them is a grandson Walter Thomas SUTTON RG11/4696 folio 81 page 5
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 02 April 11 21:10 BST (UK)
I can't see a marriage that makes this 1881 census possible - but nor can I see a birth reg for a John HOWARD :)

1881 http://tinyurl.com/3tzwat3

1871, I see an Elizabeth SUTTON 28 as servant to a Joseph HAYWOOD
she has sons Fred 10 and Jabez 4.

HAYWOOD = HOWARD?  I suspect this was the case. ;)

Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 02 April 11 21:17 BST (UK)
Looks more like Charlton to me.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 02 April 11 21:24 BST (UK)
Not CHARLTON
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: rover72 on Saturday 02 April 11 21:31 BST (UK)
I agree Geoff. If you look on earlier census returns it's definitely Carlton.

Furthermore, I don't know if it's linked but there's an Elizabeth CARLTON who married George SUTTON in the Thorne registration district in 1861.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 02 April 11 21:35 BST (UK)
I agree Geoff. If you look on earlier census returns it's definitely Carlton.

Furthermore, I don't know if it's linked but there's an Elizabeth CARLTON who married George SUTTON in the Thorne registration district in 1861.

They were in the same household in 1861 RG9/3526/5/3
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: rover72 on Saturday 02 April 11 21:51 BST (UK)
IGI has Elizabeth CARLTON and George SUTTON married on 8 October 1861 at Amcotts, Lincolnshire. Her father's name is given as John CARLTON. This is the same as Hannah CARLTON's spouse in later census returns.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 02 April 11 22:01 BST (UK)
The only thing in doubt is probably the point when George SUTTON left the scene.  Perhaps it was before 1871.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: dawnlw on Saturday 02 April 11 22:07 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone who has helped with my research on my great grandfather John Alfrd Sutton, it has been realy great of you all.
Thanks Dawn.  :)
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: rover72 on Saturday 02 April 11 22:08 BST (UK)
1871 census shows George SUTTON as being married and lodging in Gainsborough RG10/3445/66/28

Possible deaths:
March qtr 1876
George SUTTON, aged 40, Thorne district

December qtr 1882
Elizabeth SUTTON, aged 40, Thorne district
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 02 April 11 22:45 BST (UK)
I should have but Carlton not Charlton
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: rover72 on Saturday 02 April 11 22:53 BST (UK)
You might want to have a look at this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ckr/
It makes for interesting reading especially the baptism notes for Elizabeth's daughter, Hannah Mary SUTTON.
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: dawnlw on Tuesday 05 April 11 21:26 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone who has helped my on my topic
Title: Re: John Alfred Sutton Belton, Lincolinshire
Post by: Arianrod on Sunday 10 April 11 18:32 BST (UK)
From parish records All Saints Belton
George Sutton age 20 father James of Crowle married Elizabeth Carlton age 18 father John of Belton married 8 oct 1861.