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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: Cheeks100 on Saturday 02 April 11 09:05 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find information regarding Ethel and Annie Turner from Derby. Annie married Charles Henry Thorley.
Any information much appreciated.
Cheeks
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Hello Cheeks, and welcome to RootsChat!
Just to give us an idea of dates, is this the marriage?
Marriages Dec 1896
THORLEY Charles Henry
TURNER Annie
Shardlow 7b 875
Are you looking for information about Annie before she married, or are you looking for the couple's children, etc?
Rambler
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Thanks for the Welcome.
I am trying to trace my family history.
Ethel Thorley (c1892) - there is some confusion over her name. Her death certificate has her maiden name as Thorley but birth register records suggess that all her childrens birth cert state that their mothers maiden name was Turner. So I am guessing she started life as Ethel Turner.
1901 census has an Ethel Turner living with the Thorley family aged 9 and down as the sister-in-law of the head. So I am guessing that Annie (1865) and Ethel Turner are sisters. With the big age gap possibly mother and daughter. Looking for confirmation that my assumptions are correct and trying to pin down Annie and Ethel's parents.
Any help and advice much appreciated.
Cheeks
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PS that looks like the correct marriage record
thank you
Cheeks
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Also - just to confuse
her death cert states her name was Harriet Ethel Thorley but I cant find any record for that or Turner. She was known as Ethel.
I can find a birth record in Derby about the right time for Ethel Harriet Turner.
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I'm going to split your query off and put it on the Derbyshire board where hopefully someone will be able to help.
Rambler
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Thanks for the Welcome.
I am trying to trace my family history.
1901 census has an Ethel Turner living with the Thorley family aged 9 and down as the sister-in-law of the head. So I am guessing that Annie (1865) and Ethel Turner are sisters. With the big age gap possibly mother and daughter. Looking for confirmation that my assumptions are correct and trying to pin down Ethel parents.
Any help and advice much appreciated.
Cheeks
1901 census does not describe Ethel as "sister in law" - no relationship to head of household is given
1901
10 Leicester St Derby
Charles H Thorley Head M 35 Fireman Brewery Derby
Annie wife M 36 Little Eaton Derby
Elsie daughter 10 Derby
Ethel Turner 9 Little Eaton Derby
William Thomas Thorley son 9 Derby
RG13 3220 142 26
Pure guesswork - but by the order the children are on census and p.o.b. it would seem very possible that Ethel could be Annie's daughter and the other children were Charles' from a previous marriage???
Suz
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Sorry the 1911 census states this not 1901
Also this status states that they have been married for 14 years. So guess you are right that Elsie and William are probably not Annies children and explain the confusion about William being the same age as Ethel.
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Hi,
We are not allowed to post details of 1911 census - copyright issues - so it may be best to delete the details - and just leave the statement that she is sister in law in 1911
I am looking for Annie in earlier census - not found a definate yet
Suz
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Whoops
have done
thank you Suz
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Just to complicate matters Charles HenryThorley married Annie Needham in Mar qtr 1891 Derby - Annie Needham was b. Derby and was of similar age to Annie Turner!!!!
It looks like the correct birth reg for Ethel is most likely to be Ethel harriet Turner Dec qtr 1891 Shardlow 7b 478
Little Eaton Birth reg's would be registered in Shardlow district
Will look furhter for Annie
Suz