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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: bgeddes49 on Wednesday 30 March 11 20:25 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am researching our Geddes Family Tree and have located my Dad's Great Grandfather, Alexander Geddes born in 1834 in Scotland and his son Charles A. Geddes born US (my Dad's grandfather). Alexander Geddes was married to a Sarah (haven't located her maiden name???) and died in Philadelphia, in 1896.
I believe that Alexander Geddes named his son Charles A. after his father and that Charles Geddes born about 1799 or thereafter and Margaret Brown born 1806 from Fife, Scotland may be Alexander's parents.
Can anyone provide more info on the children of Charles Geddes and Margaret Brown? If anyone knows of information regarding their son Alexander, it will help me in my family research. Alexander was a plumber by trade when living in Philadelphia. I have info that Charles Geddes was born at Collessie, Fife, Scotland and Margaret Brown at Creich, Fife Scotland.
Thank you.
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Hello, I am trying to discover the parents of Alexander Geddes born 1834 in Scotland and died 1896 in Philadelphia. He was married to Sarah ?? and had a son Charles A. who was my Dad's grandfather. I believe that Alexander's Dad may have been named Charles since he named his son Charles A. I have found a Charles Geddes married to Margaret Brown from Fife Scotland and that they had a son named Alexander.
Hi these are the Children of Charles Geddes & Margaret Brown on the IGI
Father: Charles Geddes, Mother: Margaret Brown
ANDREW GEDDES b 28 AUG 1834 bap 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
JOHN GEDDES b 28 AUG 1834 bap 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
CHARLES GEDDES b 7 AUG 1836 bap 28 AUG 1836 Cupar
MARGARET GEDDES b 10 OCT 1838 Cupar, Fife
JANE GEDDES b 20 FEB 1844 Cupar, Fife
I can find nothing on an Alexander born to this couple 1834
in Fife how did you find the Birth.
Norrie
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Thank you Norrie for your response.
In researching Alexander Geddes on familysearch.org, I found that there is a record of his christening on Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. The information states the following:
Alexander Geddes b28 Aug 1834 bp 21 Sep 1834 Cupar, Fife, Scotland
Parents: Charles Geddes and Margaret Brown
Bernadette
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Hi Bernadette,
I am currently looking at the jpg image from GRO that you seek ...
It states,
For Cupar Parish, Fife, Scotland .....
Birth 28 Aug't 1834 Baptism 21 Sept'r 1834
Alexander and John, Twin Sons of Charles Geddes (Shoemaker) and Margaret Brown his spouse.
I will Personal Message you with my e-mail address for you to contact me, so that I can send you the image.
Aye
DDJJAKE with his roots also deep in Fife
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Of General Interest re-OPRs
Book out of copywrite available as a .pdf from www.archive.org
Aye
DDJJAKE
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Bernadette,
This is why I cannot locate the Geddes family in Cupar in 1841, although thay had another child there in 1844 ! Pity .. especially if they emigrated before the 1851 Census !
Aye
DDJJAKE
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When the IGI was being prepared for the Church of Latter Day Saints
They must have typed Andrew instead of Alexander, well they both start With the leter A
But its sorted thanks Jake
IGI Father: Charles Geddes, Mother: Margaret Brown
ANDREW GEDDES b 28 AUG 1834 bap 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
JOHN GEDDES b 28 AUG 1834 bap 21 SEP 1834 Cupar
Norrie
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Bernadette,
This is why I cannot locate the Geddes family in Cupar in 1841, although thay had another child there in 1844 ! Pity .. especially if they emigrated before the 1851 Census !
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DDJJAKE
I found both Charles age 62 (Shoemaker) and Margaret age 55 listed on the 1861 Scotland Census. They had a lodger but no children are listed. So the parents remained in Scotland and I will do more research to find where and when Alexander moved out of Scotland. I did find a John Geddes on the 1871 Scotland census who was born Cupar, Fifeshire. He was married to a Jane Geddes and has a son Charles (age 5) listed on the census. This could be Alexander's twin brother?? With all this research, I am still not certain that this Alexander Geddes is the same Alexander Geddes who lived and died in Philadelphia and was the father of Charles A. Geddes.
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I found both Charles age 62 (Shoemaker) and Margaret age 55 listed on the 1861 Scotland Census.
I found the family on the 1851 Census Cupar
Charles Geddes 53
Margaret 45
John 16
Margaret 12
Jane 7
David Brown nephew 15
no sign of Alexander Geddes in 1851 Census
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Dwelling: 23 Newtown
1881 Census Place: Cupar, Fife, Scotland
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Margaret GEDDES Widow 74 born Luthrie, Fife, Scotland
Luthrie is a village, in the parish of Creich, district of Cupar, County of Fife
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I will try to get both Charles and Margaret’s Death Certificates to confirm/deny what Bernadette has already found for their births and parentages in Collessie and Criech c. 1800.
Unless you want to share the seeking Norrie?
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Jake
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The Ffe Family History per 1855 Death CD gives
Alexander Geddes buried 28.9.1839 age 5
Son of Charles Geddes/ Mgt Brown father Shoemaker
Scarlet fever
OPR 420-5
Norrie
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Thank you so much Norrie and John for the research that you have done. I am happy that I found this venue and your kindly assistance.
Well, that is unfortunate that Alexander died so young. Now, I will try to focus on another Alexander Geddes born during the same time period.
Thank you again,
Bernadette
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Good lateral thinking Norrie .... I couldn't get my pre-1855 Fife CD-ROM to start ... but you have now cleared the air somewhat.
Cheers
John
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Problem Solved !
E-MAIL sent to Bernadette with actual images of USA Censuses 1850 and 1870
THIS THREAD WILL HAVE TO BE TRANSFERRED AS A NEW THREAD IN ABERDEENSHIRE
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1850 USA Census Baltimore Maryland
Adam Geddes [Tailor] aged 43 born Scotland
Jane Geddes aged 43 born Scotland
Catherine Geddes aged 19 born Scotland
Alexander Geddes [Plumber] aged 17 born Scotland
Adam Geddes [Bookbinder] aged 14 born Scotland
Eliza Geddes aged 9 born Maryland
George Geddes aged 7 born Maryland
Mary Geddes aged 5 born Maryland
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ADAM GEDDES married JANE SMITH
21 MAR 1829 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
OPR
JANE GEDDES born 18 APR 1830
Christened 23 APR 1830 Cairnie By Huntly, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
ALEXANDER GEDDES born 11 SEP 1833 Glenmuick, Aberdeen, Scotland ****
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
ADAM GEDDES born 30 APR 1836
Christened 09 MAY 1836 Leochel-Cushnie, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
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LDS Entry
Catherine A Geddes born 22 SEP 1831 Aberdeen, Scotland
Died on 10 SEP 1906 USA ?
to Adam Geddes and Jane Smith
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1870 USA Census Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Alexander Geddes [Plumber] aged 36 born Scotland
Sarah Geddes [Keeping House] aged 29 born Pennsylvania
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Aye
DDJJAKE
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Problem Solved !
E-MAIL sent to Bernadette with actual images of USA Censuses 1850 and 1870
THIS THREAD WILL HAVE TO BE TRANSFERRED AS A NEW THREAD IN ABERDEENSHIRE
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1850 USA Census Baltimore Maryland
Adam Geddes [Tailor] aged 43 born Scotland
Jane Geddes aged 43 born Scotland
Catherine Geddes aged 19 born Scotland
Alexander Geddes [Plumber] aged 17 born Scotland
Adam Geddes [Bookbinder] aged 14 born Scotland
Eliza Geddes aged 9 born Maryland
George Geddes aged 7 born Maryland
Mary Geddes aged 5 born Maryland
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ADAM GEDDES married JANE SMITH
21 MAR 1829 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
OPR
JANE GEDDES born 18 APR 1830
Christened 23 APR 1830 Cairnie By Huntly, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
ALEXANDER GEDDES born 11 SEP 1833 Glenmuick, Aberdeen, Scotland ****
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
ADAM GEDDES born 30 APR 1836
Christened 09 MAY 1836 Leochel-Cushnie, Aberdeen, Scotland
to ADAM GEDDES and JANE SMITH
OPR
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LDS Entry
Catherine A Geddes born 22 SEP 1831 Aberdeen, Scotland
Died on 10 SEP 1906 USA ?
to Adam Geddes and Jane Smith
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1870 USA Census Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Alexander Geddes [Plumber] aged 36 born Scotland
Sarah Geddes [Keeping House] aged 29 born Pennsylvania
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DDJJAKE
Thank you so much DDJJAKE for your diligence and time in making this discovery. My sisters and I were talking about the Geddes family in Baltimore over the weekend but did not know that Alexander Geddes was listed as a "plumber" on the 1850 census and therefore discounted it. That was a wonderful discovery on your part! I will be very busy today updating the family tree on ancestry.com with all of this information.
Again, wonderful information from my friend across the globe :)