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Title: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: crankyvet on Monday 28 March 11 13:51 BST (UK)
I have a silver trophy from the Nottingham Rowing club engraved "fixed fours" and dated 1907. I was wondering if anyone new of any membership records etc, from around that period.I am searching for the surname "Kent". I have contacted most committee club members over the years regarding this trophy but have never had a reply from them.Hope some RootsChatter out there can assist me.
Many thanks, crankyvet.
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: copperbeech5 on Tuesday 29 March 11 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi,

I don't know, but if in doubt, I always start with an email to Nottingham Archive, to see if they might have any records?  Worth a shot! 

Best wishes,
Copperbeech5
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 29 March 11 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

How does the inscription read on the cup??

It seems "Nottingham Rowing Club " was only formed in 2006 when 2 clubs merged :
"Nottingham Boat Club" founded 1894
"Nottingham Brittania Rowing Club" founded 1869

then there is the Nottingham & union Rowing Club which was 2 clubs which amalgamated in 1946(one club was bombed in WW2 and lost all equipment and boathouse )

Maybe this is causing the problem in finding further details

Suz

Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: crankyvet on Tuesday 29 March 11 17:25 BST (UK)
Thanks again Suz,
I have emailed the Nottingham rowing club and was directed to the Nottingham & Union Rowing club.They have sent me an automated response saying someone will contact me shortly.The inscription at the top of the tankard reads "Fixed Fours" underneath this is a crest that has two crossed oars with an engraved banner around them inscribed with the words Nottingham Rowing club . Holding the two oars are what appears to be two bowmen with cap and feather (Robin Hood types, short skirts etc), They are standing either side of a shield and on that shield there appears to be a crown on the top left and top right with a cross down the length of the shield. There is also another crown at the base of the cross. Sitting atop this shield is a castle with three turrets.
there is also a small scroll at the bottom of the shield that the bowmen are standing on. It is inscribed but the writing is so small I cant even see it with my specs on using my torch.
Under all this is the date 1907. On the base of the tankard is the letter C across from that is 2, under that is something that looks like a trumpet (but i'm sure it's not) and then something,something Sheffield with a 495 stamped below that.
I've looked through my Collins antique marks book purchased some years ago at the Silver Vaults however no luck to date.

Hmm, the plot thickens. Did you get all the Hooton info I forwarded?
Talk soon,
Tony.
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: johnxyz on Tuesday 29 March 11 18:03 BST (UK)
Apologies for a thread hi-jack, but I noticed the Hooton reference. I have a will of 1632 that refers to a Lawrence Hooton of Sneynton (married to Elizabeth Copley) and Paul Hooton of Nottingham bellfounder (married to Olive Copley, with son Paul should read Gervas - sorry)

Any use / relevance ?
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: crankyvet on Tuesday 29 March 11 18:44 BST (UK)
Thanks JOHNXYZ, I have the Fletcher house of las here and as soon as i wake up will start searching for the names you mentioned and will be in touch,Thanks heaps.
Crankyvet.
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: judi2632 on Tuesday 29 March 11 20:28 BST (UK)
Hi Cranky

My parents visited this week and dad  told me my Grandfathers Rowing cup from the Brittania Rowing Club Nottingham  is in the attic in my parents house.

I have  not seen it as yet, so can't compare any details with you, but I will get dad to hunt it out and will get back to you with any details it might have on it.

I know my grandfather was President of the club at some point and I think I also have a photo of a dinner held at the club.

My grandfather was born in 1893 and he was rowing in his mid 20s onwards.

His name was William Thomas Screeton ( Chartered Accountant ) in Nottingham and Peterborough

As soon as I can locate the cup and the photo's I will post the details

Regards Judi



Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: crankyvet on Wednesday 30 March 11 03:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Judi,
I bet you are pretty keen to see the Rowing cup now, I would be very interested to know if it has the same detail.Great pics,It might be an idea if I invest in a magnifying glass so I can read the smaller  inscription,this might help with the identification.My grandfather Reginald Vernon Kent was born in 1886 so it's possible they new each other if we are talking about the same club.
Regards,
Crankyvet.
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: Red_Fred on Thursday 31 March 11 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi

Very quick one from me :- I think the club retained the use of the old Nottingham Borough Arms as part of their badge.  When the borough became a city the flanking Foresters were replaced by stags.

I used to work at the Town Clerk's Office in the 1960's and can recall that some ancient letter heads were still around in those days

Great photos !!

KRs
Malc
ps :- I went to Mundella School in the sixties and remember the club as a school rower - I also recall the "Brit" as a wonderful 60's pop venue
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 31 March 11 22:23 BST (UK)
Re the Rowing clubs in Nottingham at that period

The TimesMay 13 1913
Suffragist Attacks on Property
The boathouse of the Nottingham Boat Club by the riverside at Trent Bridge was destroyed by fire early yesterday morning....... Firemen succeeded in preventing the flames spreading to the adjoining premises of the Nottingham Britannic and Nottingham Rowing Clubs

regards
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: Jane Eden on Thursday 14 April 11 01:49 BST (UK)
Hi

The Brit. The Boat and The Union were totally seperate clubs in the late 60's early 70's as they had competing Discos at the weekends.

Have you solved the problem?

Kind regards

Jane
Title: Re: Nottingham Rowing club records.
Post by: GuyFerguson on Sunday 25 September 11 22:11 BST (UK)
I would like to clarify the information on the Nottingham rowing clubs. By 1900 there were 4 clubs I believe:
Nottingham Britannia Rowing Club formed 1869
Nottingham  Rowing Club formed 1862
Nottingham Union Rowing Club
Nottingham Boat Club formed 1894 as a result of dispute over Sunday rowing

In 1946 Nottingham Rowing Club and Nottingham Union Rowing merged after the destruction of the Union boathouse in the second world war becoming Nottingham and Union Rowing Club

2006 - Nottingham Rowing club was formed from the Nottingham Boat Club,Nottingham Britannia Rowing Club, Notts County Rowing Association and Notts Schools Rowing Association but importantly not laying any claim to the earlier Nottingham Rowing Club heritage.

There is a long history of bitter rivalry between the clubs!

So the instigator of this thread should probably contact the Nottingham and Union to pursue his queries - the ideal contact might be Martin Brandon Bravo ( the former Tory MP ) who appears to be the principal guardian of the N&URC heritage.