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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: katwoo on Sunday 27 March 11 12:13 BST (UK)
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Hi can anyone help me look for the family of Thomas William Woodgates born 1869in Shobrooke, Exeter,devon England.
Emigrated to Chippewa County,Michegan in 1891.
Married Margaret Hillier 29/11/1900.
They lived in Dafter,Chippewa Michegan, according to the USA census in 1910 & 1920 but after that i have no info.
As far as i know there were 6 children.
Are there any Woodgates still out there i wonder :-\ :-\
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Hi
Find-A-Grave, lists them both (as WOODGATE) in the records of Mackinac Island (Protestant) Cemetery in Mackinac County Michigan. Neither record has a date - but Margaret's maiden name is noted.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gs&
Thomas W WOODGATE, Blacksmith is a widower in 1930, Dafter Twp, Chippewa (same location as in 1920)
Age 61, living with 3 unmarried daughters - age 21, 19, 17 (the same 3 youngest as in 1920)
So Margaret died between the 1920 & 1930 Census.
I think it could be 1924 - thought the record names her father as "Andrew", rather than "William":
Margaret WOODGATE - died 11 Feb 1924 , Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa, Michigan
Age: 45 (b 1879 ), Housewife, b Michigan, married
Father: Andrew HILLIER, Mother: Margaret STEVENS
Cheers
AMBY
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Dau Marion married 1921, Forest CRYDERMAN
Son Thomas married 1922, Mary A NEWCOMB
Son Lloyd married 1925, Margaret PERRON
Dau: Muriel married 1933, Stewart EDWARD
https://www.familysearch.org/
Has details - and if you search on the names, reveals some of their children - ie: grandchildren of Thomas & Margaret - which may help you locate living descendants!
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi Ambly,
That was fast work. Very much appreciated, i can put a few more pieces into the puzzle. i will certainly try www.familysearch.org to reveal some of the children/grandchildren.
Thanks again.
Katwoo. :) :)
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Hello Katwoo,
Following on the SSDI shows that Thomas Clifton Woodgate born 16 April 1901 Died 12 June 1984 -
Last Residence: 49783 Sault Sainte Marie, Chippewa, Michigan.
A few family tree entries and World Connect on Thomas which may give you a contact. The surname of the wife quoted on family tree entries could indicate he was married twice.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cgl/
Lloyd Woodgate Born 12 th Juy Died July 1985 - Last Residence: 49783 Sault Sainte Marie, Chippewa, Michigan.
Regards
Sandra
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Marion M. Cryderman
Born 3 March 1903 Died 3 May 1998
Last Residence: 49715 Brimley, Chippewa, Michigan, SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)
Forrest E Cryderman Born 17 Jul 1994 and Died 12 Jul 1978
Residence: Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, Michigan
Regards
Sandra
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Muriel A. Edward
Born 16 June 1912 and Died 15th May 2000
Last Residence: 49417 Grand Haven, Ottawa, Michigan,
SSN issued: Michigan (1952-1953)
Stewart S. Edward
Born 9 Nov 1909 and Died 23 May 2005
Last Residence: 49417 Grand Haven, Ottawa, Michigan
SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)
Regards
Sandra
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Ironwood Daily Globe, 11 Sept. 1925
“The Horse Was Also Damaged Somewhat. (From the Dault Ste. Marie News). Larch - Floyd Woodgate of Dafter while motoring to Kinross hit a horse which walked in front of the car causing a total wreck of his Dodge car and also breaking the horse’s leg.”
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Ironwood Daily Globe, 16 June 1931
“Find Large Still. Sault Ste. Marie. A 50 gallon still in operation, 19 gallons of mash, 3 gallons of whisky and miscellaneous moonshining equipment were confiscated at 925 Cedar Street and the owner, Lloyd Woodgate, 26, placed under arrest Wednesday afternoon. In an adjoining building on the property of Thomas Duguid, 927 Cedar street, 30 gallons of whisky, claimed to be owned by Woodgate, was confiscated.
Duguid, who it is claimed allowed Woodgate to place the 30 gallons of whisky in his warehouse after it is believed Woodgate learned of the coming raid, faced a charge of possession before Judge Ray Gillespie Saturday afternoon. The case was adjourned until June 17 and Duguid was released on $500 bond.”
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Ironwood Daily Globe, 22 August 1935
“Treat ’Em All Alike.” Sault Ste. Marie. Treat all places alike for violations of the beer license provisions Commissioner W.B. Robertson urged at the city commission meeting. He recommended that the license to sell beer be taken away from taverns recently fined by the State Liquor Control Commission for selling whisky.
“If we close one place for breaking the rule we should close all places which break the rule”, said Robertson. Reference was made by the commissioner to Kaiser Maze, Northview Hotel, Herbert Downs, Herb’s Blue Room, Lloyd Woodgate, Ashnum Hill restaurant, and Gould Pappas, Algonquin pavillion.
“Where is the police report on these places”, asked Mayor Laundy “I don’t have any facts before me, and I think that we should have something definite to go by before we take steps to revoke anyone’s license. If we have the records, and it is shown that these places have violated their agreement, I favor taking away their licenses” said the mayor. Action was postponed until the next commission meeting.”
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Ironwood Daily Globe, 13 November 1941
“Young Boy Is Shot. Sault Ste. Marie. Alvin Woodgate, 15, of 925 Cedar street, accidentally shot Sunday afternoon as he stood in the line of fire when Murdick McLeod of 415 Johnstone street, took a shot at a rabbit, was said to be resting comfortably and in satisfactory condition at the War Memorial Hospital.
Young Woodgate, who was obscured from McLeod’s vision, according to state police who investigated, was shot in the right chest, thigh, hand, with one pellet entering his cheek.”
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Ironwood Daily Globe, 13 January 1958
Sault Ste. Marie walked off with the bantam division championship by nosing out the Gundlach team of Dollar Bay 3-2 in overtime Sunday night ....... G. Woodgate scored the winning goal .........” [hockey]
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Possibly related:
Michigan Soldiers, Casualties in WWII:
Woodgate, James E.; tech sgt.; Detroit; killed 12-15-44, Europe; killed N. 2-12-45, Germany
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Hi Sandra,
Many thanks for the information you have sent.RootsChat people are very helpful and friendly .
Your info was really helpful and i feel i am getting somewhere at last with the mysterious member of the family.
Thankyou,
Katwoo. :) :)
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Hi Erato,
Many thanks indeed for the newspaper cuttings re Lloyd,theres always one black sheep in the family,still there were many moonshiners in the late twenties eary thirties. Thanks also for the cutting re Alvin whom i presume was Lloyds son. G. Woodgate i will have to see who he is the son of.
Also the cutting of War casualty,
Thanks once again, its great to know so many people are willing to help.
Katwoo. :) :)
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HI Katwoo,
Just a thought, there is a RAOGK volunteer in Chippewa. Michigan who will do public record and obit look ups - maybe you could get the obits for Marion and Lloyd leading to other family information on both.
http://www.raogk.org/michigan.htm
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for that. will give it a go and see what comes up.
Katwoo. :)
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Hello Katwoo,
Taking another look at your Woogate family, I wonder if the Francis Woodgate aged 2 years and 8 months - son of Clifton (Thomas) and Mary on the 1930 Census is :- John F Woodgate. The 1930 census was April 1930 so age would fit. Would also be another one to ask RAOGK volunteer about. ???
John F. Woodgate
Born 4 July 1927 and Died 1 st Nov 2007
Last Residence: 49783 Sault Sainte Marie, Chippewa, Michigan
SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for that. Will check it out at the same time as the others.
Thankyou,
Katwoo. :) :)