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Title: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 23 March 11 22:33 GMT (UK)
I have photographs of some of the headstones from this burial ground. The church was founded about 1790, formed by members of the Associate Congregation - one of the Secessionist congregations. Sadly, most of the burial ground was flattened in the 1960s to form a hall and carpark for the church. Fortunately, what remains is the oldest part, dating from about 1792.

Anyone who wants a photograph, please send me a PM with your email address.

Baird and Boag.
Beverage and Burr.
Campbell and Trotter.
Carrick and Shaw.
Clarkson and Twaddel.
Cullen and Roddock.
Colts and Aitcheson.
Davidson and Scollick.
Dick 1852 (David, iron founder).
Forrest and Wotherspoon.
Gartshore and Rankin.
Gibb and Laird.
Gilmour and Balderton.
Gold and Gartshore.
Granger and Maxwell.
Hunter and Paterson.
Deans (Janet).
Lawson and Livingston.
Lees and Aitken (Manager, Carfin colliery).
Logan 1842 (Archibald).
Longmuir and Chapman.
Lother and Dodd.
Louden and Allen.
Love and Rankin.
M.W. and R.C. 1792.
McAlpine and Knox.
McLuckie 1833 (John).
McMeekin and Shaw.
Miller and Forrest.
Miller and Drysdale.
Neilson 1839 (John).
Neilson and Smart.
Nicol 1832 (Mary, Airdrie Toll).
Paterson and Smith.
Prentice and Whitelaw.
Russell and Thomson.
Russell and Hotson (merchant in Airdrie 1835).
Russell and Laird.
Shaw and Crawford.
Shaw and Lindsay.
Simpson and Muirhead.
Smellie and Gardner.
Thomson 1809 (James).
Thomson and Scollick.
Waddel 1800 (John at Airdrie Toll).
Walker, Forsyth and Duncanson.
Watson and Paul (or Bell).
Whitelaw 1829 (James, leather merchant, Glasgow).
Witherspoon and Chalmers.
Wood and Prentice.
Wotherspoon and Stewart.
Yeats 1860 (J.).
Young and Cameron.




Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: alys on Thursday 29 March 12 10:22 BST (UK)
I would love to see a photo of the Miller/Forrest gravestone at Wellwynd.  They are my 3x great grandparents.  I didn't manage to find the stone when I visited last year.  As I haven't used the site before, can you tell me how I can get my email address to you without disclosing it on-line?
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 29 March 12 11:52 BST (UK)
Hello Alys, welcome to Rootschat. You have to make a few postings (4 I think) before you are allowed to use the "PM" system (private message) so until then, perhaps this will do. If you need a transcript of the inscription let me know.

Lodger.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 29 March 12 13:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jim, I would be interested in the John Waddel stone.

He may be the John W, innkeeper/vintner at Airdrie Toll Bar, married to Elizabeth Paterson, but on the other hand that one was apparently still alive enough to sign a disposition in 1806.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 29 March 12 14:19 BST (UK)
The Personal Message service (PMs) are normally activated for a new member after 3 posts on the main boards (some people report a breakthrough after two posts though!).

alys, welcome to RootsChat from me too. When you are ready to use the PMs, a quick way to access is just to click on the small green scroll under someone's username on the l/h side - this takes you straight through to the PM service which works very much like all email services 

Monica  :)
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: sancti on Thursday 29 March 12 17:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jim, I would be interested in the John Waddel stone.

He may be the John W, innkeeper/vintner at Airdrie Toll Bar, married to Elizabeth Paterson, but on the other hand that one was apparently still alive enough to sign a disposition in 1806.

The date 1800 may have been when the plot was purchased and the marker erected to ensure no one took the lair
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 29 March 12 17:39 BST (UK)
Yes, thanks, sancti.

Jim has sent me the image, and that seems to be exactly what it is.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: alys on Thursday 29 March 12 22:13 BST (UK)
Thank you Lodger and Monical.  I got the inscription on the gravestone from "The Churchyards of Airdrie" by LFHS.  It's good to have a photo of it.  I'll try a post soon on the couple on the stone who are among my"dead ends".  Alys
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Monday 07 January 13 12:57 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm really sorry I can't send any PM yet. I would love to see the Gold/ Gartshore stone picture from Wellwynd Churchyard. James Gold was my GG x 3 and I'm trying to find out more about the Gartshores. I hope you are able to reply to this message, sorry I can't PM. Lynsay
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Monday 07 January 13 16:52 GMT (UK)
pm sent to Lynsay.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Monday 09 September 13 13:41 BST (UK)
Hi,

Has anyone had any luck with the Gold/Gartshore stone from Wellwynd? Lodger I know you were going to have a look when you came back in Jan
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 09 September 13 14:56 BST (UK)
Lynsay, who were your Gartshores? Just wondering if they have any connection to the ones in my tree.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Monday 09 September 13 15:11 BST (UK)
Hi, my Gartshores were from Blairlinn and I can go as far back as 1630 to John Gartshore. They were all from New Monklands and i would love to discover a link to Alexander Gartshore of that ilk. Do these sound like your Gartshores?
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 09 September 13 16:11 BST (UK)
Yes, some of them. John Gartshore (c1690-1752) married Susanna or Ann Howie, who has to be related to my Howies of Meikle Drumgray. Their son Robert Gartshore married Mary Mochrie, whose mother was my 4th-great-grand-aunt Mary Waddell of Stanrigg, so I am related once and probably connected at least twice. I'm in touch with other Gartshore researchers, and have quite a lot of information about them.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Monday 09 September 13 16:24 BST (UK)
Hi, I am descended from John Gartshore and Susanna Howie's son John who married Janet Waddell. Is this the same Waddell family? I'd be grateful for any help that you could give. I've also looked into the family's connection with the Muirheads of Lauchope.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 09 September 13 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi, I am descended from John Gartshore and Susanna Howie's son John who married Janet Waddell. Is this the same Waddell family?

I am not sure, because I don't know for certain who the parents of Janet Waddell were. She was allegedly born in 1739, but that could be a guess based on her age at marriage being 21. He first daughter was Mary and her second son was Robert, which hints that her parents might have been Robert and Mary, but they didn't stick closely to the tradition when they named their second daughter Anne instead of Susanna after John G's mother. Although Susanna Howie also seems to have been known as Anne, so maybe they did.

I have also seen a source that says Janet's parents were Alexander Waddell and Elizabeth Martin, but I have yet to see the evidence for that. John and Janet's fifth daughter was Elizabeth and their fourth son was Alexander.

I know nothing about Muirheads, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Monday 09 September 13 17:09 BST (UK)
This is the Gold & Gartshore stone. The inscription reads - "The property of James Gold and Janet Gartshore his wife and their children. Their son Andrew died 28th July 1840 aged 11 years".
There is an epitaph but I can't read it, sorry.
In the Accounts Book for Wellwynd Church it is recorded that "James Gold, collier Airdrie" purchased 1 lair on 21st February 1837.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Monday 09 September 13 18:33 BST (UK)
Thanks. So sad Janet Gold nee Gartshore died in the poorhouse.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Tuesday 12 November 13 16:19 GMT (UK)
Hi, what would you like to know about Gartshore's. I am also from the line at Blairlinn back to Alexander about 1630. G
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lynsay on Tuesday 12 November 13 17:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham, Can trace things back to John Gartshore/Elizabeth Wood. Using their children's names do you think John father could have been Thomas?
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Anjanelson on Thursday 01 May 14 16:05 BST (UK)
Hello Lodger,  I am an American interested in a photo of the Neilson and Smart stone you listed. I am the g-g-grandson of Thomas Neilson, b. 1773, and Margaret Smart, b. 1782. Their son Andrew, married to Elizabeth Grant immigrated to the U. S. in 1879 with their children, and here I am.  In mid-June I will be on a U.K. tour and have short stops in Edinburgh and Glasgow. I am trying to decide if a trip to Airdrie would be worthwhile.  Thank you for any information.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 01 May 14 19:42 BST (UK)
Hello Anjanelson,

Welcome to Rootschat. I am on holiday and do not return home until Saturday, so I will send you the photograph as soon as I get back.
Kind regards,

Lodger
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 03 May 14 17:38 BST (UK)
Hello again Anjanelson,

Here is the stone you asked about, not too much information I'm afraid and, as you can see, it has been pushed over and is now very badly damaged by the weather. The inscription reads -
"The property of Thomas Neilson and Margaret Smart his wife and their children. 1850. Their son William died 26th August 1891 aged 7(?) years".

There is an entry in the plot owners book for Thomas Neilson, wright, Gartsherrie, 22nd June 1841.
If you can prove that this is the same Thomas Neilson it would help narrow things down, as the plots (he purchased a double plot) would either have been purchased shortly after his marriage or at the death of a family member. A wright was a sort of joiner/carpenter sort of tradesman. Gartsherrie would have been a village in those days.

Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Anjanelson on Thursday 08 May 14 17:07 BST (UK)
Lodger, thought you might like this info that goes with your Neilson/Smart stone photos.

Children of Thomas Neilson–1750
THOMAS NEILSON  was born 21 Feb 1773 in Throsk, St. Ninians, Scotland. He died in 1857 at the age of 84, and is buried in the Wellwynd church yard in Airdrie, Lanark.  He married MARGARET SMART on 24 Nov 1802 in St. Ninians parish.  She was born 23 Feb 1782 in Cowie, St. Ninians.  Thomas worked as a “wright,” today known as a carpenter.  The family moved to Gartsherrie, Lanarkshire before 1841.  Margaret died at 93 on 4 Mar 1875 at Albert Place in Coatbridge, where she was living with her daughter Agnes.
Children of THOMAS NEILSON and MARGARET SMART:
   i.   Thomas Neilson— b. 1803, d. 7 Apr 1857 in Gartsherrie.  Occupation was a joiner. 
   ii.   Agnes Neilson— b.  19 Sep 1805, d. 1885
   iii.   Mary Neilson— b. 30 Dec 1808, d.
   iv.   William Neilson— b. 1816, d.
   v.   Andrew Neilson—b. 16 Sep 1826, d. 25 Feb 1910 in Pennsylvania, USA
   vi.   Peter Drummond Neilson— b. 1829, d.
   vii.   Margaret Neilson— b. 1831, d.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 08 May 14 21:17 BST (UK)
Here is a good view of how the churchyard used to look in Victorian times. The minister in the picture is the Rev Mr Paterson who was at Wellwynd from 1871 until 1889. This is the oldest and only surviving part of the burial ground. The part at the left side of the church has now gone, as is the corresponding area to the right of the building.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 08 May 14 21:18 BST (UK)
Now the same area, taken from the steps of the church looking down.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Anjanelson on Friday 09 May 14 15:07 BST (UK)
Lodger, I kindly thank you for the info you are sending.  I sent a previous thank you, but not sure you received it.  I just discovered the quick reply option; I am just learning this site.  I have previously seen the picture looking down, but was led to believe the churchyard has been cleaned up a bit.  Thank you again for the Neilson-Smart photos.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Friday 09 May 14 15:28 BST (UK)
Hi Anjanelson,

Yes, it has, as far as I know, been cleaned-up since that last photograph was taken (about 3 years ago I think) I'll try and have a look next time I'm in Airdrie.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Anjanelson on Saturday 10 May 14 14:34 BST (UK)
Hello to you again Lodger,
Lodger, my previous thank you came back so here is a copy.  Again, I appreciate your time to help me with my search, and the photos you have taken of this graveyard.  No need for any special trip to Airdrie. 

I kindly thank you for the photos you sent of the Neilson/Smart stone in Airdrie.  It has enough information for me to see they were early relatives.  William, the son, who died on 26 Aug 1891, I have an age of 75, born in 1816, but actually died in Coatbridge.  I apologize for responding late because I did not see the notice or something.  I hope you receive this message as I find this site a little difficult to navigate.  I will be in both Edinburgh and Glasgow June 5 to 9, on a tour of England, Scotland and Wales, to see the countryside where my ancestors lived—in and around the little towns surrounding Airdrie. My maternal grandfather was born in Rutherglen.  These photos will be shared with several other cousins working with me to follow our Aunts and Uncles.  Again, thank you, and hope this finds you in good health, and you had an enjoyable vacation in spite of my interruption of it.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 10 May 14 18:05 BST (UK)
Hello again Anjanelson,

I'm glad you found the information useful, hope you enjoy your visit to our country in the summer.

Lodger
Title: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 09 July 16 13:46 BST (UK)
I have added to my list of photographs for this churchyard and now, as far as I can see, it is pretty much a comprehensive list of the surviving stones. I have managed to marry-up quite a few stones to the names on the existing documents that were compiled in 1831 and added to at various dates over a period of about 20 years.
Mistakes were made by the keeper(s) of these records and they admit this on the documents. They tried to correct the mistakes but it appears that lairs (plots) were not recorded properly and some lairs have different owners in the later documents.
I was right in my assumption that the surviving area of the churchyard is in fact the oldest part. It is described in the paperwork as the "South" area. The surviving list of lair owners for this part only covers about 50 or 60% of the actual plots.

Here is my up to date list.

WELLWYND MONUMENTAL PHOTOGRAPHS 2016.
ABERCROMBIE, MACKAY & MACKENZIE.
AITKEN & RUSSELL.
ALLAN & GRIERSON.
BAINBRIDGE Nicholas.
BAIRD & BOAG.
BEVERADGE & BURR.
BLACK & BROWN.
BOYD & GRAHAM.
CAMPBELL, TROTTER & GILMOUR.
CARLISLE  Thomas & Marion.
CARRICK & SHAW.
CLARKSON & TWADDEL.
COLTS & AITCHESON.
CONNACHER & WILSON.
COOK, GLEN & SCOTT.
CULLEN & RODDOCK.
DAVIDSON & BULLOCH.
DAVIDSON & SCOLLICK.
DAVIDSON John coal master.
DEANS Janet 1865
DICK David Iron founder 1852.
DICKSON & BUNTING.
DOBBIE & COLTS.
DONALDSON & BROWN.
DRUMMOND & EWING.
DUNCAN & HAMILTON.
EWART John 1850.
FORREST & WOTHERSPOON.
GARTSHORE & RANKIN.
GIBB & LAIRD.
GILMOUR & BALDERTON.
GOLD & GARTSHORE.
GRANGER & MAXWELL.
HAMILTON & RUSSELL.
HENRY & PATERSON.
HONESS Robert.
HUNTER & GORDON.
HUNTER & PATERSON.
JACK & GARTSHORE.
JOHNSTONE & COOPER.
LANDLES William & family 1837.
LANG John & family 1807.
LAWSON & LIVINGSTON.
LAWTHER, DODD, ANDERSON & McARA.
LEES & AITKEN.
LIVINGSTONE Duncan, Gartsherrie.
LOGAN Archibald 1842.
LONGMUIR & CHAPMAN.
LOTHER & DODD.
LOUDON James 1832.
LOVE & RANKIN.
MAIN & THOMSON.
MASON & HAMILTON.
McALPINE & KNOX.
McGAVIN Rev Matthew.
MACKAY Elizabeth & husband John (.........an, 1874).
McLUCKIE John died 1833.
McMEEKIN & SHAW.
MILLAR & FORREST.
MILLER & SMITH.
MILLER & DRYSDALE.
MUIRHEAD William wife & children 1821.
MURRY & JACK(...).
NEIL Thomas & family 1807.
NEILSON & SMART.
NEILSON John 1839.
NICOL Rev William 1823.
NIMMO & NICOL 1832.
PATERSON & JAMIESON.
PATERSON & MUIRHEAD.
PATERSON & SMITH.
PETERS & BARR.
PETERS, WILLIS, EADIE & LISLE.
PRENTICE & WOOD.
PRENTICE & WHITELAW.
REID John, son of William.
REID & RUSSELL.
RUSSELL & THOMSON.
RUSSELL & HOTSON.
RUSSELL & LAIRD.
SAWERS James, of Clarkston.
SCOTT Hugh, of Rosehall 1833.
SHAW & CRAWFORD.
SHAW & LINDSAY.
SIMPSON & MUIRHEAD.
SMELLIE & GARDNER.
SNEDDON, SWANSON & NEILSON.
STIRLING & BRAID.
SWANSON & BELL.
THOMSON & (ERDIS?).
THOMSON James, wife & family 1809.
THOMSON & SCOLLICK.
THOMSON Andrew. John died 1871.
THOMSON, WHITELAW, PEDEN, ARMSTRONG & GRAHAM.
WADDELL John, wife & children 1800.
WALKER & FOTHERINGHAM.
WALKER & RUSSELL.
WALKER & FORSYTH.
WATSON & BELL.
WATSON & EASTON.
WATT James, wife & children.
WHITELAW James, leather merchant Glasgow 1829.
WILSON & JACK.
WITHERSPOON & CHALMERS.
WOOD & PRENTICE.
WOTHERSPOON & THOMSON.
WOTHERSPOON & STEWART.
WOTHERSPOON James, died (1881).
YEATS J, of Clarkston 1860.
YOUNG & CALDER.
YOUNG & CAMERON.
YOUNG, John & Robert 1806.




Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 09 July 16 14:43 BST (UK)
Brilliant stuff, Lodger

I am interested in
Black and Brown
Gold and Gartshore
Livingstone
Muirhead
Waddell
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 09 July 16 17:31 BST (UK)
Hi Forfarian, I had a sneaky feeling you'd be interested in these photographs. Don't get your hopes up though, there isn't much to see!

Black & Brown.
The inscription was transcribed back in 2003. Since then, time and vandalism has taken their toll.
"Erected by Helen Brown in memory of her husband Walter Black who was born 26th September 1831, died 19th April 1891. The above Helen Brown died 12th May 1901 aged 66 years".

Gold & Gartshore.
According to the limited records, James Gold, collier, Airdrie, purchased plot No.2 (consisting of 2 lairs) in the 6th division South on 21st February 1837 at a cost of 10 shillings. (50p in today's money).  Again, the inscription, like all the others, was transcribed in 2003. This picture is an old one and not very good, I intend to go back and take better ones as soon as I find the time.
"The property of James Gold and Janet Gartshore his wife and children. Their son Andrew died 28th July 1840 aged 11 years". There is an epitaph which wasn't transcribed, if it is still legible  I'll try to do it when I'm there.

Livingstone.
According to the records, Duncan Livingstone of Gartsherrie purchased plot No.7 in the 8th division South on 31st August 1839, cost 10 shillings.
The inscription has gone I'm afraid and all that is legible now is "Erected by Duncan Livingstone..."

Muirhead.
No records for this one I'm afraid and it is really just a big marker stone.
"The property of William Muirhead his wife and children 1821".
And it was the devil's own to read, as you will see by the picture!

Waddell.
No paperwork for this one either but it must have been in the 9th division of the South.
Another large marker stone.
"The burying place of John Waddel at Airdrie Toll, his wife and children 1800".
This is another one of my old pictures and I'll get a better one as soon as possible.

Rest of the pictures in the next post.

Stay tuned as I'm going to add a list of funeral invitation and memorial cards that are with Airdrie library.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 09 July 16 17:38 BST (UK)
Next 3 stones.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 09 July 16 18:11 BST (UK)
Thanks, Lodger.

Pity the Livingstone one is so eroded. But the others are useful. Many thanks indeed.

Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: hendog on Sunday 30 October 16 10:44 GMT (UK)
I have a couple of questions that someone may be able to help me with.

I believe that the headstone shewn in the first photo below (courtesy on memento-mori.co.uk) refers to the Burial place of Alexander Willimson, a farmer at Kippspark, and Agnes Hendry my ggg grandparents. The stone sits at the top right hand corner of the Churchyard, about 2/3 rows from the back perimeter wall. When the photo was taken as can be seen there was a fallen stone lying over the stone which made photographing and transcription problematic. However the inscription as could be seen was transcribed as "The property of Alexander Williams(on)? And Agnes Hendry & Their children  1808?"

When I visited in 2010 with the hope of being able to figure out more of the inscription the council had "tidied up" and re-erected the fallen stone hard against the Williamson stone thereby completely preventing any additional inscription being deciphered! As we live in the Midlands of England nowadays I was not amused!!

However I have since had a photograph (2nd below) taken by a distant relative of a further Williamson\Henry stone in I understand the New Monklands Church yard at Glenmavis. This bears the inscription "A. Williamson and A. Henry 1824". I am inclined to believe this is the same couple.

This prompts the questions

Can anybody help with what burial records \ MI inscriptions are available for Wellwynd?
Similarly can anybody help with what burial records \  MI inscriptions are available for New Monkland Churchyard, Glenmavis.
What are other wiser peoples thoughts about the two stones? Could they be for th same couple and if so why the to stones in separate graveyards?

Any thoughts comments etc much appreciated.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: sancti on Sunday 30 October 16 10:57 GMT (UK)
The dates may refer to when the lair was purchased and a stone erected to mark it so that no one else could be buried there.

I'm sure that Lanarkshire Family History Society have transcribed the headstones in Airdrie churchyards and the booklets can be purchased
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: hendog on Sunday 30 October 16 12:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the response.
Just looked again at the dates of the children that I had for the children of Alexander Williamson and Agnes Henry and they are -
I know that all the children with the possible exception of James survived into adulthood, but note the gap between Agnes and Margaret. I wonder if this signifies a baby that died and the establishment of the Wellwynd lair in 1808?
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 30 October 16 13:08 GMT (UK)
I would tend to agree that these 2 plots belong to the same couple. They may have sold the Wellwynd plot and moved, as did many of its congregation, when a split occurred in 1804.
Here is an passage from a paper I wrote for the Monklands Historical Society -

"It (Wellwynd) began as the United Secession Church and was a “Burgher” church.  Burghers were those who agreed to take the Burgess Oath (I profess and allow with all my heart the true religion presently professed within this realm).  In 1804 a split occurred in the Associate Congregation, this split was between the “Auld Lichts” & the “New Lichts”. The Auld Lichts allowed No New Light, thinking that the blending of Church & State was contrary to the spiritual nature of the Church.   The New Lichts were more liberal and progressive in their nature.  A vote was taken and the New Lichts were allowed to remain in Wellwynd.  The Auld Lichts built a new church (at) Broomknoll........."

There are no burial records for either Wellwynd or the parish churchyard at Glenmavis for the dates concerned. The MI for the Wellwynd stone is exactly the same as the information you have.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: hendog on Sunday 30 October 16 13:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the response. I had a feeling this was the case. Alexander Williamson, a farmer at Kippark, and Agnes Henry married in 1804, and the Agnes Henry side is of interest as their granddaughter Agnes Williamson married my g-grandfather Ebenezer Hendry. At the time Agnes lived with her parents Alexander Williamson and Jane Glen in the family home the Queens Hotel in Helensburgh, and Ebenezer was working in Glasgow, but his parents, Ebenezer Hendry and Isabella Thomson ran the Station hotel in Stirling, although his father Ebenezer was born in Alloa, Clackmannanshire.
I reckon there is a fairly good chance that somewhere further back the two Hen(d)ry lines are connected so keep scratching away to see what details I can dig up that might help. I suspect that Agnes may have  been one and the same as the Agnes Hendry born on 6 April 1784 in New Monkland, the daughter of John Hendry, a Farmer, and Agnes Fraser, but could do with her approx. DoB hence the interest in any burial MI details.
Anyways once again thank you for your reply.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lang on Sunday 16 July 17 14:25 BST (UK)
I am interested in the Hunter/Paterson burial. Are there any first names to go with the surnames? Thanks, Graham
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: kathleenmitchell on Monday 23 September 19 20:11 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have just found out that relatives Daniel & Felix Canavan we’re buried in the church yard 1857 & 1863, I guess it’s under a car park now.  I cannot believe that a church would stoop so low as to tarmac over graves.
Kathy
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Singo on Sunday 23 August 20 23:03 BST (UK)
I am looking for Angelina (O'Neil) Hood who died in March 1874 and was Buried at the Wellwynd Churchyard cemetery. With some investigation I have learned about the movement of a portion of those burials to New Monkland Cemetery and expect that she might have been included as part.  Wondering if anyone knows or has a list of those still at Wellwynd and if there is an Angelina buried there. O'Neil is maiden name and Hood is married name.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Monday 24 August 20 08:56 BST (UK)
There are no burial records for Wellwynd churchyard, sorry. And, as far as I know, no record of which graves were exhumed and taken to Ryden Mains cemetery (New Monkland).
The stones that were left in situ at Wellwynd have been transcribed but unfortunately, the name you are searching for doesn't appear on that list.
Lodger.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Singo on Monday 24 August 20 09:09 BST (UK)
Thank you Lodger!
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 24 August 20 10:30 BST (UK)
Edinburgh's St Giles kirkyard is completely under cobbles & tarmac. John Knox will have prob's when the trumpet sounds!  ;D

Bests,
Skoosh.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 24 August 20 10:40 BST (UK)
John Knox will have prob's when the trumpet sounds!  ;D
Good. He was the cause of a lot of unhappiness down the centuries thanks to his killjoy Calvinist doctrines.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Isabel H on Monday 24 August 20 12:24 BST (UK)
I am interested in the gravestone for COOK, GLEN & SCOTT, and would like a photo please.

Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Monday 24 August 20 18:15 BST (UK)
Hi Isabel H,

There is a monumental inscription for COOK, GLEN & SCOTT but unfortunately, I do not have a photograph. Weather permitting, I will try to get one taken this week, if the stone is still there.

The inscription is as follows -

"Erected by William Cook, resident of Providence R.I. USA in memory of his grandfather William Cook. Also his grandmother Mary Glen. His father William Cook. His 2 children Janet & Christina, all interred here. Also in memory of his wife Charlotte Scott who died in 1872 and is interred at Elmira New York USA."
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Isabel H on Monday 24 August 20 20:17 BST (UK)
Lodger, thank you.

William Cook and Mary Glen are my 3xg grandparents, so if the stone still exists it would be good to have a photo, but just when it's convenient.

Isabel
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Friday 11 March 22 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,
     I would be interested in Gartshore and Rankin and Gold and Gartshore, any photos or info would be great.

Graham
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 March 22 11:31 GMT (UK)
I have James Gold married to Janet Gartshore in 1827.
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Friday 11 March 22 16:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,
    that would be great, thanks.

Graham
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 13 March 22 20:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham, sorry for taking so long to send the pictures.
This is the Gold & Rankin stone, not very good quality I'm afraid. The inscription reads -
"The property of James Gold and Janet Gartshore his wife and children. Their son Andrew died 28th July 1840 aged 11 years".
There is an epitaph which I did not record, sorry.

Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 13 March 22 21:02 GMT (UK)
This is the Gartshore & Rankin stone.
Inscription reads "The property of Alexander Gartshore and Jane Rankin his wife and heirs 1829".

Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Monday 14 March 22 13:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks most helpful.

Graham
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Friday 18 March 22 16:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   can anyone help me out with these Churches in Airdrie. I downloaded a "mortcloth" death extract from SP, at the top it gives a list of proclamations of marriage. Some say the person was from the West Parish, or the East Parish, High Parish and others just the place name in Airdrie was the Wellwynd Church any of those above

What Churches were the West, East and High in Airdrie any help most welcome.

G
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Friday 18 March 22 19:37 GMT (UK)
The East Parish church began life as a Chapel of Ease, to relieve the overcrowded New Monkland Parish Church at Glenmavis. It was erected soon after a petition signed by 436 inhabitants of Airdrie was handed to the Presbytery at Hamilton in 1791. It was situated in Chapel Street and was always known as "The Old Chapel", even after it became a Quad Sacra parish after the introduction of the Quad Sacra Act in 1834. It was demolished in 1855 after it was undermined by the workings of the Jenny Lind ironstone mine. The burial ground survived until the 1960s but it too has now gone.

After it was forced to close, the East Parish merged with the West Parish Church at the foot of the Wellwynd, I don't know when the West Parish was founded but it would probably have been around 1800 - 1810. That church didn't have a burial ground, the congregation would have used either the East Church burial ground or the parish church ground at Glenmavis.
There was another church in the Wellwynd, half-way up on the right side, this was founded as a Burgher Church in, I think, 1789 and was the first church to be built in the town of Airdrie. The present church on the site dates from around 1846 but is no longer used as a place of worship.

I can't imagine where the "High Church" could have been? This is not a term associated with the Church of Scotland, could you say where you found this information?
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Saturday 19 March 22 09:42 GMT (UK)
Hi,
    if you look on Scotlandspeople for a death date before 1855 it will be a mortcloth payment. If you get the extract for that person you have access to the whole page. At the top of the page are payments made to the Church, proclamations for marriage, the one I was interested in was Elizabeth Thomson died 1841 mortcloth payment of 4/-. I had a look at the proclamation and noticed that it said so and so from west Parish, so and so from east parish, one from High parish, and one from south parish. The only fly in the ointment is you don't know what Church the page is from, it could be Wellwynd or Broomknoll, Scotlandspeople don't identify individual Churches with these extracts. What ever Church this extract is from it must have been popular for so many people to come from all over. I wondered if it was Broomknoll.

G
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 19 March 22 16:08 GMT (UK)
What you will be looking at is an extract from the Old Parochial Register for New Monkland parish.
Anyone who lived in the parish, no matter what religion or what church they attended - or of no religion at all, was entitled to be interred in the parochial burial ground. In this case, the churchyard surrounding the parish church at Glenmavis.
As I said in my previous post, the West parish church (by 1841 a Quod Sacra parish) did not have a burial ground and so the parishioners would have to have used the churchyard at Glenmavis.
So, this Mortcloth register belongs to the parish church and the fact that it mentions which Quod Sacra parish the deceased belonged to is a little bonus for you. It also eliminates the possibility of them being interred in the Chapel St, Wellwynd (Burgher) Church or Broomknoll St burial grounds within Airdrie burgh.
There were a few other churches in Airdrie at that time, all Secessionist churches, the Cameronians were in Upper Bridge St and the "Auld Lichts" (a Burgher breakaway congregation) built a church with a surrounding burial ground round about 1804 I think, in Broomknoll Street.
Lastly, St Margaret's Roman Catholic church in Airdrie was founded in 1836, the oldest Catholic church in the Diocese of Motherwell, it doesn't have a burial ground so its parishioners would have been interred at Glenmavis until the opening of St Joseph's R.C. cemetery, about 1855 I think.
 
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: Graham_of_that_Ilk on Sunday 20 March 22 10:15 GMT (UK)
Cheers for that most helpful.

G
Title: Re: WELLWYND CHURCHYARD, AIRDRIE
Post by: alys on Monday 28 March 22 17:40 BST (UK)
I was married by the the minister of the High Church in Airdrie, my own minister being on holiday at the time.  The High Church/Kirk is situated in North Bridge Street, very close to the High Street so that might be how it got it’s name.  I don’t know the history of the church.