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Title: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: Bramleyapple79 on Monday 21 March 11 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Wondering if anyone could help if possible? I have been researching Cutler's from Nottingham for a while now but have come to a very frustrating block! I have got as far as John CUTLER (Sometimes spelt as CUTTLER) b. 1798 in East Stoke, Nottinghamshire...He married an Elizabeth FROST in 1816 in Mansfield, Notts. I have years of death etc but seem to be stuck! Any help would be very appreciated thanks!  :)

Stacey
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: suzard on Monday 21 March 11 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome to RootsChat

John Cutler married Dorothy Knowles (widow) in 1863/4- Dorothy was a lot younger than John

Marriage reg FreeBMD
Mar qtr 1864
Derby
on same page
John Cutler
Dorothy Knowles
7b 515

Purchase of the marriage cert would give John's father's name and occupation

Or are you looking for some other type of information??

Suz
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 22 March 11 07:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

Could this be your man?

John Cutler bapt 5.11.1796 to Benjamin & Ann Cutler, Stockener, at East Stoke, St Oswald.  Notts

In the notes section it says - See family notes on fiche.  There must be more information on the original entry.

Carol
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 22 March 11 07:47 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage

Benjamin Cutler m Ann Pacy at East Stoke 21.9. 1795.

Carol
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 22 March 11 09:55 GMT (UK)
From Phillimore marriages At East Stoke.
Benjamin Cutler aged 19, & Anne Pacey aged 19 , with consent of Esther Cutler w (mother of Benjamin Cutler) of P of St Martins, Leicester, & Thomas Pacy, father of said Anne Pacey lic. 21 Sept 1795.

Nothing further on the John Cutler marriage at Mansfield
John Cutler & Elizabeth Frost 17 Mar 1816.

Freebmd
possible death for Elizabeth Cutler Dec 1857 Mansfield 7b/ 4*6

1851 Mansfield John Cutler (Culter) aged 54 frame work knitter wife Elizabeth aged 57
son Pacy Cutler aged 23 iron moulder and Daughter Hannah 19 a seamer. Daughters Ester 16, Eliza 13 and Agnes 11.

1861 mansfield, John Cutler widower aged 63, ale and porter agent b East Stoke.
daughters Esther aged 26 and Eliza aged 23.

1871 Nottingham John Cutler aged 74 porter b Stoke by Newark
Dorothy Cutler wife 47 seemstress b derbyshire
sons Pacey Cutler aged 44 mar moulder b Mansfield

Edward Knowles unm aged 21 labourer b Derbyshire.

A possible death for John Cutler Mar 1879 Nottingham  7b/192 aged 82
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: Bramleyapple79 on Tuesday 22 March 11 13:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys! Thanks so much for taking the time to look into it for me, very much apprciated!

I am assuming from all this info that Benjamin Cutler and Ann Pacy are the parents of John Cutler as the marriage date is about a year before John was born. The name Benjamin runs a lot on the Cutler side so I'm going to go with my gut instinct lol :)

Thanks Larkspur for the Census info as I had missed a couple of small details on my tree when I looked into that too!

Sunflower - where abouts would I get to view the Microfiche details do you know please? :)

Thanks all once again! x
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 22 March 11 13:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Stacey

The original records are kept at the Nottingham Records Office, which is on Castle Meadow Road, Notts.


http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/home/leisure/archives.htm

Carol
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: Bramleyapple79 on Tuesday 22 March 11 14:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,

Fantastic! Thanks for that your a star! :)

Stacey x
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 22 March 11 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hello again

A couple more snippet's

Ann Pacy bapt 30.1. 1776 to Thomas & Hannah at East Stoke

Thomas Pacy aged 21 & Hannah Ownsworth aged 20 with consent of parent James Ownsworth married 27 Dec 1773 at East Stoke.

Carol
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 22 March 11 18:44 GMT (UK)
I am assuming the micro fiche extra was the details from Phillimore, on the parentage of the bride and groom.
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: sunflower on Wednesday 23 March 11 13:25 GMT (UK)
It looks like the vicar of East Stoke made notes, because looking at the burial entries, as early as 1779, it gives cause of death and occupation.  It also has 'details on fiche' next to them so perhaps more information on the original.

Carol
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: paul1801 on Sunday 08 May 11 10:40 BST (UK)
Hi Stacey, I think I may have e mailed you directly in the past,
just another thought on your search for John Cutler,

In my tree I have John Cutler b1797 Alfreton Derbyshire, parents John Cutler and Elizabeth/Esther Wagstaff. I have not been able to find John in any other records in Derbyshire or identify and confirm his death.

My theory is that he may have married Elizabeth Frost, some of the Cutler families had existing links to the area around Mansfield so its possible.
I also continue to search for any further information about my John and Elizabeth/Esther Wagstaff, I have johns birth 1777 Alfreton and their marriage, 1797 Alfreton but have not been able to locate their place or date of death.

just thought I would add to the discussion, hope it helps,

regards

Paul  :)
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 08 May 11 11:40 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,
Is this the Birth you thinking is your John?
19 August 1797, Alfreton, Derbyshire, England, Father JOHN
The Marriage 1797 is Submitted on the IGI.
The actual marriage is on FreeREG;
www.freereg.org.uk

There is also this one:
03 October 1785, Saint Werburgh, Derby, Derby, England to JOHN/ESTHER

There is a Census with a John born c 1785 with Wife Elizabeth c 1781 living in Heanor, Derbys in 1841.
His Occp is Stocking Maker.
HO107/1188/16/Heanor
This Elizabeth may be alive in 1851 living with her Daug Martha SHAW born c 1812, Codnor, Derbys.

Looks to me that there are a lot of John Cutlers about!

What Child of John Cutler c 1797 are you descended from?
When and where was he born?

Trish :)

EDIT there is also a Marriage 1847 in Alfreton on there;
Charlotte HUNT, Widower, Father John CUTLER, Stockinger
So looks to me that the Census I found is this Charlottes Father.
Title: Re: Stuck on CUTLER line - Nottinghamshire
Post by: paul1801 on Sunday 08 May 11 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi Trish thanks for the quick reply,

I descend from Thomas Cutler b1801, he married Mary Walters in Pentrich 1822,
on Thomas's second marriage cert he lists his father as John Cutler.

I have sent you a PM.

Paul