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Title: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sue9 on Monday 21 March 11 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm looking for any info on a family of Mascall/Maskell/Mascel.

James Mascall was born 1814 in Heathfield, East Sussex, UK
he married Philadelphia Row/Rose in Heathfield 1846 (she was born in Heathfield 1811)
on the 1851 census they had 2 children William born 1847 Heathfield and Thomas born 1849 Heathfield.
They went to Australia on the Talbot in 1857. Not sure if they settled in Victoria.
Did the boys marry and have any families!.
Thanks
kind regards
Sue9
Title: Re: James Mascall/Maskell
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 20:11 GMT (UK)
Hello Sue,

The family:
MASKELL   JAMES   43   AUG   1857   TALBOT   12   390
MASKELL   PHILIDELPHIA   46   AUG   1857   TALBOT   12   390
MASKELL   THOMAS   8   AUG   1857   TALBOT   12   390
MASKELL   WILLIAM   10   AUG   1857   TALBOT   12   390


Philadelphia MASKELL d 1874 aged 63 { b Sussex} - John  { no surname} and  Philadelphia Rose EASTWOOD # 7298

William MASKELL { b Sussex} married Ruth ERREY { b Sussex} 1869 # 4586
All children born in Cobden .

1. Thomas Peter Erry b 1873 # 1393
2. Mary Naomi b 1874 # 14707
3. Philadelphia Louise b 1876 # 21955
4. Lilie Mary Martha b 1879 # 1553
5. Minnie Elizabeth b 1881 # 15244
6. Elsie Ruth b 1884
7. Ebenezer Benjamin b 1885 # 1618
William MASKELL d 1884 aged 37 Cobden - James MASKELL and Philadelphia ERREY # 11808

Thomas MASKELL { b Sussex} married Rebecca  BROWN{ b Hampden }  1879 # 2353
1. John Thomas b 1880 Cobden # 7160
2. Annie Elizabeth b 1882 Cobden # 8123
3. Francis b 1884 Camperdown # 943 d 1884 aged 14 days Terang # 3118
4. William Herbert b 1885Cobden # 1622
5. Rose Isabella b 1887 Cobden # 1977
6. Effie Winifred b 1889 Terang # 35686
7. Martha Emily b 1891 Terang # 37671
8. Lucy Rhoda b 1894 Cobden # 19442
9. Mary Ann Rebecca b 1894 Cobden # 19441 { twins}
10. Stanley Gordon b 1898 Cobden # 17743

Thomas MASKELL d 1925 aged 78  Terang- James MASKELL and Philadelphia ROSE # 11852

Regards
Alison
Title: Re: James Mascall/Maskell
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 20:40 GMT (UK)
A bit more  ;)
Ruth MASKELL d 1937 aged 87 Terang- Thomas Peter ERRY and Mary ROSE # 15130
Rebecca MASKELL d 1931 aged 70  Terang -  John BROWN and  Mary Ann LEE # 16721

Thomas and Rebecca's children:

John Thomas MASKELL d 1943 aged 63 Terang - John Thos MASKELL and Rebecca BROWN # 15499
William Herbert MASKELL d 26326  Thomas MASKELL and Rebecca BROWN # 26326
Effie Winifred SORRENSON d 1936 aged 47 Cobden # 19131
Lucy Rhoda HOWARD d 1959 aged 64 Geelong # 20988
Emily Martha HOARE d 1966 aged 74 WARR # 10327
Annie Elizabeth ROGERS d 1972 aged 90 Cobden # 9201
Rose Isabella MATTHEWS d 1976 aged 89 Geelong # 13020
Mary Ann Rebecca JUSTIN d 1983 aged 88 Terang # 07143

William and Ruth's children :
William Henry MASKELL d 1928 aged 59 { b 1869} Cobden # 14268
Thos Peter Errey MASKELL d 1952 aged 79 Cobden # 222922
Lillie Mercy Martha HORSTED d 1953 aged 74 Cobden # 16497
Mary Naomi  BLACK d 1956 aged 82 Colac # 22986
Philadelphia Louise  POLLEY d 1963 aged 86 WAUR # 3697
Elsie Rith RALPH d 1973 aged 89 Cobden # 27826
Minnie Elizabeth POLLEY d 1925 aged 44 Geeong # 9627
Olive Ruth MORTON d 1936 aged 34 Cobden # 17159 edited to add -not this couples child

I think Ruth Had more children after William died in 1884 and Olive may have been one of those seeing as how she was born after William died { so was Ebebnezer but Ruth may have been pregnant when William died } I will go back and have another look  ;)

Regards
Alison


Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 20:50 GMT (UK)
Yes she did.
Ruth ERREY { b Sussex} married Daniel Fenton NICOL { b Camperdown } 1893 # 4587
1. Frederick Benjamin b 1894 Camperdown # 9898
2. Lillian Ada b 1897 Camperdown # 26445
3. Robert William b 1900 Camperdown # 1477
4. Violet Elizabeth Gaston b 1901 Camperdown # 25168

No Olive was not one of Ruth's children she was a daughter of William Henry MASKELL ans Elsie Ruth ERREY I will go back and amend  ;)
Strange that Ruth married Nicol but was buried as MASKELL ??
Regards
Alison
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sue9 on Monday 21 March 11 21:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison

Thanks so much for all the information.
So pleased the boys got married and had families.
There no death of James Maskell or did I miss that.
Can you find out when Ruth Errey went to Australia.
There are Errey families in the Heathfield area,
already have some Erreys in my tree.
Thanks once again.
Best regards
Sue9
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 21:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Sue,
Lots of stories about the Maskells here
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=maskell&l-title=Camperdown+Chronicle...|titleid%3A43

I haven't found James' death yet will have another look  ;)

Regards
Alison
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 22:53 GMT (UK)
Here it is Sue

James MASKELL d 1902 aged 89 Cobden - parents unknown # 898

Regards
Alison
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: alison2763 on Monday 21 March 11 23:24 GMT (UK)

Hi Sue,
here is James' will,
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search_details.asp?searchid=54&id=94713
If you click on this link on the page it will download, takes a bit of time  ;)
VPRS 7591 P2 link

William MASKELL's Will :
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search_details.asp?searchid=54&id=94705

Regards
Alison
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sparrett on Monday 21 March 11 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue,

I can see a large number of MASKELL's are buried in the region of Cobden, Camperdown, Port Cambell.

Included in the listing are WILLIAM and THOMAS with wives and some family listed.

These two men have headstones and I can send you photos of them, but would need your email address to do so

I can also send you particulars of the other MASKELL's at the Cemeteries.

It will  be best to exchange this information via the PM system, though. (Lazy typist ;))

If anything of specific interest turns up in the listings, it can of course be brought over to the main board ;D.

Sue
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: cando on Monday 21 March 11 23:44 GMT (UK)
Port Campbell cemetery is still online
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/CEMINDEX.HTML

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sue9 on Tuesday 22 March 11 09:48 GMT (UK)
Hi to you all

Fantastic news, so pleased you found James death and will.
I need time to sort all this out, one day don't know much about James then Alison gives me all this lovely information.Thank you to Sue and Sparrett.
I never been to Australia but looking to go for my husband birthday in November.
So perhaps I need to put Cobden on my list.
Sue I will send you PM
Thanks so much
Sue
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: manalan on Friday 22 July 11 14:00 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,
I have some info on Errey/Maskell families. There were four Ruth Erreys in Camperdown/Cobden area in 1800s.
Ruth Errey (1849-1937) m. 1868? William Maskell (1847-1884). She was a daughter of Thomas Peter Errey and Mary Rose.
Elsie Ruth Errey (1867-1967) m. 1901 William Henry Maskell (1869-1928). She was a daughter of Elizabeth Errey and David Errey. Elizabeth was a daughter, and David a nephew, of Thomas Peter Errey. Thomas and co. emigrated to Australia in 1857.
Ruth Gaston/Barrow (1824-1899) m.1866 Benjamin Errey (1818-1893). They emigrated to Australia in 1870. (Benjamin was a brother/cousin of Thomas). They had a daughter Ruth Errey (1868-1928) who m.1893 Daniel Fenton Nicol (1868-1945).
I have an Errey book on loan that has quite a bit about Maskells. I can pass info on to you if you are still interested.
cheers,
Mandy
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: Gone2canada on Tuesday 27 December 11 09:17 GMT (UK)
Hello!

I'm completing some research into my 3 X great-grandfather who is the same James Maskell discussed in this thread.

My research shows that he was born around 22 October 1814 at Heathfield, Sussex, but I'm struggling to find who his parents were or any history prior. Does anyone know of the history of James Maskell?

Would love any tips or help to find out a bit more.

Regards,

Tim Maskell
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sue9 on Tuesday 27 December 11 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Tim

We must be some sort of cousins, my 3 x gr grandfather was Alfred Mascall/Maskell born in Heathfield, East Sussex, UK and the brother of James.
I believe James Mascall and Philadelphia had two children William born 1846/7 and Thomas 1848/9
which line do you come from.
James Mascall father was Thomas Mascall.
Happy New Year
Best regards
Sue9
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: Gone2canada on Tuesday 27 December 11 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue;

Thanks so much for your response.  I have been stuck trying to find and family connections beyond James and you've given me some great leads with the name of his brother and father.  Thank you!

My paternal lineage is:

James Maskell / Mascall (m. Philadelphia Rose)
William Henry Maskell (m. Ruth Errey)
William Henry Maskell (m. Elsie Ruth Errey)
Norman William Maskell (m. Hazel Polley)
Allan Gilbert Maskell (m. Valma Bailey)

After arriving at the port of Geelong, James took up an allotment of farmland at Cobrico, Victoria, Australia and the property remains the family dairy farm.  Norman's eldest son Robert still lives on the property today although has retired from running the farm.  William Sr was keen on growing fruit and established an orchard with quite a few apple, mulberry and plum trees that remain today.


:)
Tim
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: sue9 on Wednesday 04 January 12 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Tim

Happy New Year.
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.
This is little of my research on the Mascall/Maskell line

Born 1735   John         Father Thomas Mascall     mother Catherine  ?  in Burwash
Born  1737  Jonadab    Father Thomas Mascall        "   Catherine                        "
Born   1749  Catherine  Father   "             "             "     "

Jonadab married Ann Gurr 1761 Dallington
Children
Born 1762 Ann                    in Warbleton     married 1780 Richard Mugridge/Muggeridge
  "      1764  Elizabeth                 in  Heathfield    married 1789Thomas Evenden
   "      1775  Thomas  (twin)        in      "                  "         Sarah Sands
    "      1775 Catherine   "            in      "                  "        1792  Thomas Sands

Thomas 1775 married Sarah Sands in Heathfield  7/11/1798
Children
born   1800 Ann      born    Heathfield
          1803 Mary        "       Warbleton       (Warbleton parish is next to Heathfield)
          1805  Frances    "          "
          1807  Thomas              "
          1810    Harriett              "
          1812   John                Heathfield
          1814  James                   "              Your great x 3 grandfather
          1817  Louisa                  "
          1820   Alfred                   "              My great x 3 grandfather
          1823   Elizabeth             "       

I live near the East Sussex Record Office (30mins) so great for looking up info.
If you want more info I'm happy to share it with you.
Best wishes
Sue9
Title: Re: James MASCALL/MASKELL
Post by: Kiwiannie on Tuesday 21 May 13 04:12 BST (UK)
Interested in your posts about the Maskells. My husband is a descendant of Thomas Maskell born 1807. Would love more information about the family. Husbands grandfather James left sussex in the early 1900's with his family bound for Rockhampton Australia. Left Australia because he didn't like it and settled in NZ.