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Title: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: kamsackkat on Monday 21 March 11 02:21 GMT (UK)
Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door:
 
My family used to own Blucher Hall until about 1910 I believe, so I am interested in the history of both these properties.  I am also interested in photos if anyone has some.  I was contacted once by the current owner but have lost the contact information.  I can be reached at (*)
From what I understand, at one time both properties were owned by the same individual as well as a stable that was later converted to a road house. I expect that is the current Mrs. Forman's Pub.  I have attempted to attach a photo, hopefully it links correctly.  It's from about 1880.
My family were Frasers & Stewarts, and Aikman married my ggrandfathers sister Margaret and they were living there as well as my ggrandfather Robert, and his daughters Christina and Catherine.  Margaret & Roberts father Donald had been with Blucher at Waterloo and remained friends, so from old letters and family stories I gather Blucher Hall gained it's name from that friendship, as Blucher stayed with them when he was in town, and from what I understand he had something to do with how the property came to belong to Donald.
I am also interested in burial information

Thankyou.  Katherine Fraser-Bailey

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Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 21 March 11 11:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Katherine

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

I have split your post away for the Tranent Cemetery post in order that you may get more responses to your enquiry about your families. If you want to add specific names for burial information, if available, on the Tranent Cemetery thread www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332438.0.html always good to keep the request simply to the names and dates that you are looking at regarding burial information.

Enjoy your time here!

Monica
Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: tidybooks on Monday 21 March 11 11:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Katherine,

I am originally from Port Seton, and I know Mrs Forman's well as I used to play golf there. Mrs Forman's was owned by Punch Taverns as my son was interested in it a few years ago. However not heard of Blucher Hall in that area, have you an address?

My mother was a Stewart and her grandmother was a Fraser from the Prestonpans area, mostly miners.

Tom
Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: Serene on Tuesday 22 March 11 09:32 GMT (UK)
Dear Katherine, our ancestor was George Forman who build Mrs Formans in 1841. I think they are listed as living at Blucher Hall in the 1841 census. George's wife was Marion Bowman. I have a copy of Mrs Formans C.1934 will try to find and attach asap. regards Serene
Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: tidybooks on Tuesday 22 March 11 12:24 GMT (UK)
Hi All,

Found a good link on history of Mrs Formans,

http://www.mrsformans.co.uk/who-was-mrs-forman.html

It shows a photo of Marion Forman and a good deal of history. On Old Maps.com , found a map that shows Blucher Hall marked where Mrs Forman's was in 1854. The golf course was not shown then, but the racecourse was.

Tom
Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 22 March 11 13:06 GMT (UK)
That's a great link Tom  :)

From the Tranent Cemetery post running on RootsChat www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332438.0.html, Fiona (caraid) provided an gravestone inscription (reply no.34):

Transcription for George Forman
198 Large triptych stone.
Geo FORMAN d Levenhall 8.3.1843 41yrs...much respected...by w Marion BOWMAN d Levenhall 29.9.1888 83yrs, da Cath 12.5.1844 2yrs, s Jas drowned at sea when homeward bound from Australia 25.4.1860 25yrs.
(left side) Geo FORMAN 22.11.1823 51yrs, w Ann CARR 18.4.1827 49yrs
(right side) Geo FORMAN, da Ann d Levenhall 2.1.1897 62yrs, s Geo d Melbourne, Australia 1904 78yrs, s Peter d Levenhall 1.4.1905 77yrs, da Bethia d Levenhall 1.10.1907 68yrs.


Serene, you will have this! Fiona was responding to a query from you.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Formans
Post by: Serene on Tuesday 19 April 11 05:45 BST (UK)
Thanks Monica..  Wondering if anyone knows anything about where Marion Bowman was born?  I cannot seem to unlock that mystery yet.  IGI listed father as Robert.

Also burial place for Charles Forman son of Marion.  He was a salt maker of Tranent. Cheers Serene
Title: Re: Forman's Pub & Blucher Hall next door.
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 22 April 11 01:09 BST (UK)
Hi Serene

The 1851 census gives Marion's birth place as Musselburgh, c. 1805. There is a Margaret Bowman, visitor, born c. 1815 in Portobello also showing in the household at Leven Hall in 1851.

Marion's death cert details for her parents' names might be a good place to check to help you work back.

Monica  :)
Title: Re:Mrs Forman birth place abd parents
Post by: Serene on Friday 22 April 11 07:14 BST (UK)
Thanks Monica.  I rechecked some of my IGI info and have a James Bowman and Marion Addie.  I think the death cert is the way to go though to get a more certain name although it is dependent on the accuracy of the informant even then.  I did get the will but not the death certificate at the same time. Silly me!  Sue