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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: Blackwater Park on Sunday 20 March 11 22:21 GMT (UK)
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One of the minor brick walls in my research into the Oakey family of Grimley concerns the following.
William Oakey (b. 1827) was the son of William Oakey and Mary Berrow. On the 3rd November 1850, according to the Grimley parish records (and the IGI), he married Betsy Bishop Pender.
In the 1851 census they are in Grimley (Hannah is either Betsy's mother or maybe grandmother):
Hannah Bishop, 66, widow, cake maker, b. Grimley
William Oakey, son in law, 24, farm labourer, b. Grimley
Betsy Oakey, wife, 19, gloveress, b. Grimley
In 1851 they had a daughter, Betsy Emily Oakey (chr. 3rd August 1851; also on BMD). In 1859 however William died, and in the 1861 census Betsy and her daughter are living with her brother (maybe) William Bishop in Coucher's Cottages. in St John's in Worcester.
William Bishop, head, 40, married, labourer, b. Grimley
Elizabeth Bishop, wife, 28, married, gloveress, b. Bromyard
Elizabeth Grubb, daughter, 20, married, gloveress, b. Bromyard
Betsy Oakey, visitor, 28, widow, b. Grimley
Betsy E. Oakey, visitor, 9, scholar, b. Grimley
After that: nothing. Or at least nothing that I can find out for certain.
Betsy senior seems to vanish completely. As does her daughter. In the 1881 census the only Elizabeth of the right age born in Grimley is an Elizabeth Weaver; she's already married to William Weaver in 1871, and is indeed listed as Betsy Weaver, but I can't find any record of a Weaver marrying an Oakey.
Anybody got any ideas where these two might have vanished to? All helpful suggestions gratefully received!
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Hello :)
There's a death of Betsy E Oakey age 77 in 1929 in Essex
Rochford 4a 604a
and Betsey Emily Oakey Probate record 1929, in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)
Kind Regards
Morgan
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Hello
It says Betsey Emily Oakey or MARSH Emily otherwise Emily Betsey of Delaware Manor House-Road New Thundersley Essex spinster died 8th April 1929. Probate London 25th May
to Esther Rist Spinster effects 484 pounds and five shillings
Pam
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Hi is this Elizabeth and Betsey in 1871?
William Marsh 35 b Gloucs
Elizth 35 b Worcs
Betsey Emily 18
Residing at Virginia Row, Bethnal Green Middx
Census ref RG10/475/19/33
Keyboard86
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Hi again 1881:-
William Marsh 46 b Nailsworth Gloucs
Eliza 46 b Grimley
Emily 23 b Grimley
Residing at 218, Jubilee Street, Mile End Old Town Middx
Census ref RG11/483/103/19
Keyboard86
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1891 RG12/309/54/17
1901 RG13/330/55/14
In 1901 William is a Widower with Emily
Keyboard86
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Oooh, that looks promising! I shall investigate further. Thank you very much, all of you.
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Hi again, utilising the free search of the 1911, it would appear that Betsey Emily, is still an Emily Marsh still in the Mile End area
Keyboard86
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Hi again, if it is the correct Elizabeth, her death appears to be:-
Elizabeth Marsh aged 57 Sept 1894 Mile End 1c 285
Keyboard86
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Well, that certainly looks like her - the probate with the Oakey name on, and the fact that Esther Rist connects that to the Marsh family in the 1901 census, would seem to seal it.
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Looks as though my previous inability to find them has been down to them not being able to stick to one form of the name Elizabeth, and Emily being (very) conservative with her age - she only ages 18 years or so in the 40 years of censuses!
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Not 100pc on death of Elizabeth, but marriage?
Keyboard86
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Yes, the age of that death looks slightly out. I've been looking for any sign of the marriage of Betsy Oakey to William Marsh and haven't come up with anything yet. Maybe since they'd gone to a different part of the country they didn't feel the need to bother.