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Hi everyone,
Was wondering if somebody may be able to look up marriage on 5th March 1810 Kirkbymoorside between Alexander Stephenson and Kitty Hartley. Looking for any other information with this entry.
Many thanks,
Val
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Hi Val,
It just says that both Alexander and Kitty were of the parish and that they married by Banns. Witnesses were William Bradley and John Shepherd
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On familysearch.org there is a Alexander Stephenson born 10th April 1792 at Bilsdale Midcable, north of Helmsley and Kirby Moorside. Father shown as John Stephenson.
On the site it has the 1851 for him aged 62 born Bilsdale and living as a lodger.
I don't know if you need that info or not!
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Thank you Snow Queen and The Mc for the information. Do have him in census and baptism. Was hoping for an occupation on the marriage entry. Trying to fill in a gap between the marriage in 1810 and the first child, which appears to be 1819.
Many thanks.
Val
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Hi Val,
It looks like Alexander has followed his father's occupation because the baptism record of daughter Martha 30 June 1833 Kirbymoorside says he was a chimney sweeper
You probably already have them but in case not Alexander's parents were John and Isabella and Catherine's were John and Martha
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Thank you Snow Queen, that is fantastic. I didn't know who Alexander's mother was. And are you telling me that Alexander's father, John, was a chimney sweep.?? This is very interesting.
Val ;D ;D
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Hi there
Just wondered if you had seen this Alexander Stephenson?
You asked why they hadnt had any children between the marriage
in 1810 and 1819. I did find a Alexander born in 1816 in Helmsley
Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find him with parents. Were your
family born in Helmsley as well???
In the 1881 census he is then living with wife Mary, at a son in laws
house up in Stockton on Tees. He is 65 which makes his year of
birth 1816. He is the only one born in Helmsley at that
address. His daughter is called Mary Ann and his son in law is called James Horner.
regards Sandymc
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Hi Val,
The baptism record for Alexander 1792 Bilsdale says his father John was a Sweep from the parish of Terrington.
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Thank you snowqueen, that's brilliant, a breakthrough with my tree. Much appreciated.
Sandymc, that Alexander Stephenson you found in the census living with daughter Mary Ann, is my great x 3 grandfather. I have been researching this for quite some time and am convinced that Alexander who married Kitty Hartley is either a cousin or uncle of his. Have all the same family names and occupations.
Will plod on, many thanks.
Val
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Hi Val,
You're very welcome. Good luck with your research
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Hi Val
Happy to help and hope you do find all you want about your family.
Just noticed on your list of names of interest that you have Swales as one
of them. I presume you have seen the 1881 census where I found Alexander Stephenson living with daughter Mary Ann. Forgot to mention on the list of names there were also three Grandchildren who were Swales.
Alexander Swales ll, Zacharia 9, Jane 14/
Also further down the street about 3 houses away there is another
Alexander Stephenson living with his Mother who is 62, called Sarah Lee.
Alexander is married to someone called Sexter (never heard that name before) aged 21 his wife, and Alexander a child aged 9mths.
Are these yours as well??
I come across Swales and Stephensons alot as my family come from North Yorkshire as well and they normally live in the same street as my family names and I also have Stevensons with a V.
Take care and if you need any more help let me know as I look at the Yorkshire people more than others.
regards Sandymc
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Hi Sandymc
I have lots of Swales and Stephensons in my Tree. My greatgrandmother was a Swales and her mother was a Stephenson. The Swales and Stephensons were travelling families, hawkers, potters, earthenware dealers etc. and repeatedly intermarried as well as with other certain families. The Travelling People board on this site is full of information about them all. The ones you mentioned are all in my Tree.
I became so fascinated with them all and so many other people are trying to sort them all out that I just keep adding more besides my direct line which I am still trying to put together,
Thanks for your interest.
Val
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Hello, I am interested in verifying a marriage between Jonathan Russell, b. ca 1764, and Anne Unknown, b. ca 1766, both of Kirbymoorside. Believe eldest child to be Christopher Russell b. 1793, so that may be approximately when the marriage occurred. Appreciate any help.
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Hity
I think this is Jonathan and Ann
Jonathan Russel married Ann Allan on 10th November 1788
at Helmsley, Yorkshire.
Bride was 22 (1766) Groom was 26 (1762)
Found Christophers and his family he had 8 children do you have these?regards Sandymc
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Dear Sandymc,
Thank you soooooo much! I am most delighted to have this. So, Ann's (with no "e") family name was Allan! Yes, I have 8 children for Christopher & his wife Rebecca in my record: William, Mary, Sarah, Ann, Christopher, Rebecca, David, Hannah. I believe this family, or part of it, arrived at the Port of New York aboard the Chester in 1843. From there they came to Ontario, although I cannot account for all the children. I am descended from David, or so I believe.
Is the source you used accessible to me? I am guessing it is possible that "Russel" with one "l" somehow became "Russell" with 2 "l's"?
With thanks, Jaunty
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Hi Jinty
This can be find on www.FamilySearch.org which is the Latter day
Saints site which is free to access (as far as a I know) from wherever
you are. Just a note about saying they were born in Kirbymoorside.
Alot of people chose the largest village to say they were born in as not
everyone could spell in those days. Helmsley is about 6 miles from
Kirbymoorside and I presume this is where Ann was either born or
moved to when she was young. You have to be a little flexible
with the spelling and the whereabouts in those days. Dont forget
not many could write, read or spell and they like myself were not
told much as children, as they should be seen and not heard,
I even had that in my youth. Hope this is your Ann and Jonathan
as mentioned just be flexible with the interpretations.
They were born not far from alot of my family as you can see
Yorkshire, Yorkshire etc
regards
Sandymc
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Dear Sandymc,
I appreciate the information on Helmsley. Also, good advice on the flexibility issue. I am quite sure about this family. Everything fits, in spite of some disappearing children. Again, that was not uncommon at the time. Children died or left home. In this case some stayed behind while the parents and younger children went to America and then Canada. It must have been hard to break up a family like that. Yes, "seen and not heard." Children had a very definite PLACE when I was growing up. Your help with this has been amazing -- thank so much. I will check LDS as you suggest.
Jaunty
Hi Jinty
This can be find on www.FamilySearch.org which is the Latter day
Saints site which is free to access (as far as a I know) from wherever
you are. Just a note about saying they were born in Kirbymoorside.
Alot of people chose the largest village to say they were born in as not
everyone could spell in those days. Helmsley is about 6 miles from
Kirbymoorside and I presume this is where Ann was either born or
moved to when she was young. You have to be a little flexible
with the spelling and the whereabouts in those days. Dont forget
not many could write, read or spell and they like myself were not
told much as children, as they should be seen and not heard,
I even had that in my youth. Hope this is your Ann and Jonathan
as mentioned just be flexible with the interpretations.
They were born not far from alot of my family as you can see
Yorkshire, Yorkshire etc
regards
Sandymc