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born england 1875 exact date unknown. Father John, Mother Hariett (nee? Axcell) 2 other children Harriet, older and John, younger arrived in perth via the 'daylight' in 1879. I am trying to find census information, details of marriage and where they came from in england, along with port of departure.
All help muchly appreciated.
Carol
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Obviously, Elizabeth won't be found on any census.
She wasn't born in 1871, and had left England by 1881.
Do you have any clues for the others re ages?
Are you sure the surname is spelled GARRATT?
I know, from personal experience, the number of mis-spellings!
Any clues at all will help.
Possible birth of Elizabeth:
March qtr 1875
Medway district vol 2a, page 459
Garratt, Elizabeth Mary A
And a marriage:
September qtr 1871
Medway district vol 2a, page 667
Garratt, John George
Axcell, Harriett Mary
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1871 census has this:
Reference RG10/909/84/11
High Street, Alma Place, Chatham
Axall, Charles Head M 51 Cordwainer (Journeyman) b Chatham
Axall, Harriett Wife F 51 b Chatham
Axall, Harriett Daughter F 19 b Chatham
Axall, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 b Chatham
John Garratt is more difficult to find, as there are a number of possibilities.
in Ann Street, Plumstead, Woolwich:
Garratt, John Lodger 31 Labourer, Woolwich Arsenal b Milton, Leicestershire
in West Street, Sittingbourne
Garrett, John G Lodger 20 Cooper b Portsmoyh, Hampshire
And another 9 x Garrett, John in Kent of marriageable age!
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Some possibilities with a marriage in September qtr 1871 (after the Census dat. From Elizabeth Mary's death transcription: birthplace is listed as Chatham. Is this in the area of Medway District? I also found in The bicentenial Dictionary of WA that John is recorded as John George GARRATT, Cooper. The other siblings are born after 1871 Census. What is the best way to access these records?
With thanks
Carol
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From the beginning of Civil Registration (July 1837) until 1941, Chatham was indeed included in the Medway Registration District.
The occupation of Cooper, for me anyway, nails the correct John Garratt in 1871:
Reference RG10/983/127/18
West Street, Sittingbourne
Garrett, John G Lodger M 20 Cooper, b Portsmouth.
Not sure what else you are after?
The BMD references I found are all on FreeBMD. It's Free! ;D
Once you have the reference, you can order a copy of the birth/marriage/death certificate.
You can order these from GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
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Yes I thought the 1871 Sittingbourne man looks just right for the 1871 marriage
and for sure this birth must be him
John George Garratt 1851 Sep Portsea Island 7 161
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I have looked on 1871 census via Ancestry site and still can not get a match for John George GARRATT at West St, Sittingbourne.
As I have so many certificates to purchase do you know of a transcription service available in the UK, as I live in Aus.
C
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Lateral thinking needed!! :D
Try looking under GARRETT!
There are no transcriptions of the actual certificates - you simply have to pay the money. :(
Maybe parish records would help? Try cityark.medway.org.uk? Thay might be able to help
My surname is Garrad - i have found it spelled as Garrard, Garrod, Garrett, Garratt, etc.
So I am well used to lateral thinking with surnames! ;D
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BMD certificates you buy from the government at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
cost is GBP 9.25 each if you have the full ref - as per postings
Transcription services are ok for Aust certs - no need to pay extra to an Aussie agent for UK certs.
You save on the credit card conversion charges by buying a few at once
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Here is the marriage in St. Paul Chatham. You can download the image from the link.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cbe/
John in 1851
RG09 piece 357 folio 179 page 20
GARRATT, Edward Head Married M 37 1824 Copper Smith St George...Middlesex
GARRATT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 37 1824 Shoreditch
GARRATT, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 10 1851 ...Poplar
GARRATT, Edward Son M 12 1849 Scholar Southwark
GARRATT, John Son M 10 1851 Scholar Portsmouth Hampshire
GARRATT, Eliza Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Portsmouth
GARRATT, Thomas Son M 5 1856 Portsmouth
GARRATT, Alfred Son M 4 1857 Portsmouth
GARRATT, Sarah Daughter F 1 1860 Portsmouth
Jebber
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These are the marriage details of John's parents, I have the image if you want it.
Marriage 13 Juy 1846 All Saints, Poplar, Mdx.
Edward Goldby GARRATT, of age, bac. coppersmith son of George Peter GARRATT, coppersmith
Elizabeth Jane SING of age, sp. dau.James SING baker
Witnesses. George Peter GARRATT & Sarah Elizabeth GARRATT (X her mark)
Jebber
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Thank you so much and yes I would love to have a copy.