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Title: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Saturday 19 March 11 05:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Attached is an unidentified picture from my mothers treasure box..inscription on back..Glasgow Edinburgh & Greenock.

I can post pictures of my grand parents in their 60's if a match could be made from that.

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 19 March 11 05:49 GMT (UK)
Right around the start of the war, Kaz...about 1914 or so.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Saturday 19 March 11 10:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you China,

It's hard to tell as they worked so hard back then, but what age do you thinks she would be ? Do you see a wedding ring?

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 19 March 11 11:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Kazza...I can see a wedding ring and I think she looks to be in her twenties.
Carol
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Saturday 19 March 11 12:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks Carol,

I'm now thinking it could be my maternal grandmother b. 1897 -and the picture was perhaps taken in their home town of Greenock just before my grandfather went off to WW1.. they marrried Feb 1915 my grand father went off to WW1 June 1915..
Great.. i will post a picture of my grandmother side by side at a later date... for a comparison

Thanks heaps 
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 19 March 11 14:19 GMT (UK)
My pleasure Karen...I know you didn't ask for a clean but I took the creases out and smartened it up a bit.
Carol
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 19 March 11 17:03 GMT (UK)
Could be a wedding photo then, for her husband to carry off to war with him :-\

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Sunday 20 March 11 04:20 GMT (UK)
Carol:- WOW... thanks it does look much smarter.
China:- Don't think a wedding picture !. but definitely a picture of his new bride to carry off to war.

Thanks guys.
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 20 March 11 22:37 GMT (UK)
Why don't you think it would be a photo taken at the time of her wedding? No wedding dress? That's a pretty modern invention and a great and wasteful luxury. Many people got married in a best outfit....and didn't necessarily get a bride&groom photo taken. Most couples were photographed, but separately.

Sounds completely alien, I know :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Monday 21 March 11 12:54 GMT (UK)
Hi China,

Thankyou, i didn't know that.

I have attached ( i think !! ) a picture of my paternal grand parents on their wedding day..very different.

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Monday 21 March 11 15:16 GMT (UK)
Yes, very different...much more what we're used to seeing. About 1926 or so?

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Tuesday 22 March 11 07:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks China, i appreciate the feed back

I suppose when you look at the dates and locations there is bound to be a variance ..maternal grandparents married 1915 in Scotland & paternal grandparents 1928 NSW Australia.

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Tuesday 22 March 11 07:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, not sure how to attached 2 pictures side by side.. the elder lady in thos picture is my maternal grandmother..i do think... by the angle of her mouth.. it could be the same lady as in 1st post. i would appriciate an opition.

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 22 March 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
for comparison
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Tuesday 22 March 11 13:05 GMT (UK)
NO !! but thanks Jim.. The comparison i need is between the 1st post...single female standing & last posted picture of elder lady in family shot..the one you have compaired it to was only posted as an example of wedding dress outfits of long ago.

Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: jemhay on Friday 25 March 11 02:55 GMT (UK)
Oh - I definitely see the young lady in your first post being the older lady in the last one. Definitely a possibility. :)
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: maidmarianoops on Friday 25 March 11 04:00 GMT (UK)
found this site


sylvia
http://www.glasgowhistory.com/jamaica-street-bridge-scenes-filmed-in-1901.html
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Thursday 31 March 11 11:40 BST (UK)
Hey Jem, thanks, that make me feel better, knowing i could be that little closer..and Sylvia, amazing photos and film footage, i will spend quite a while looking through it all.

Thanks
Karen ;D
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: ceedee on Thursday 31 March 11 21:03 BST (UK)
I can't date photos which is why I rely on the lovely people on this site, but as a qualified passport examiner, we look for ears, eyebrows and then turn the photos upside down to compare eye brows and shape of jaw lines. Strange I know but it works, ears and shape of eye brows don't change much
 ;)
Christine
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 31 March 11 21:14 BST (UK)
How interesting! How does the eyebrow-jaw shape work?

I'd seen passport people turning the things upside down but never knew why!

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: ceedee on Thursday 31 March 11 21:23 BST (UK)
China
Not sure of the science, but I think it makes you concentrate on areas u don't usually look at,and allows u to see them in a different light, people are drawn most often to the eyes in a photo, and these change as do your cheek bones as u put on or loose weight and grow older, your eye brows and jaw line show your skull shape.
Try it, it works (along with the ears if you can see them lol)  Apparently someone recently was charged for his ear print as it is as individual as a finger print)
Christine
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 31 March 11 22:34 BST (UK)
Yes, we look at ears and noses when trying to decide if a person in one old photo is the same as in another one...if we really want to make a big deal of it we look at the distance between pupils, width of mouth, length of philtrum and length of face from the eyeline to the bottom of the chin. But I never heard of the eyebrow thing :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: ceedee on Thursday 31 March 11 22:52 BST (UK)
China
You Jim and Pru r the experts on here, never gonna argue with what u say :-)

Sounds like its all the same science, trying to see the shape of the skull, if u think of it your eyebrows mirror the skull underneath, they only move up or down other things can stretch, shrink or get fat, but definitely  recommend turning the photo upside down.

btw I still have lots of photos which require your expert opinion on dating on this site, just haven't uploaded them yet, so look forward to your help
Christine
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: That_Daft_Laddie on Thursday 31 March 11 23:57 BST (UK)
Here's an interesting facial feature to ponder Kazza.......

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/featheredfish/rootschat/Kazzzaachinbumps.jpg)

Gordon
Title: Re: approx date !!
Post by: kazzza on Saturday 02 April 11 11:58 BST (UK)
Thankyou everyone for your information and comments..very interesting... And Gordon..not that i'm an expert, but i think there is definatly something there.

Thanks
Karen