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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Montana272 on Friday 18 March 11 17:36 GMT (UK)
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Anyone have anything for Caldwell's in Scotland? Renfrewshire? I am stuck. I have a Charlotte Caldwell who married Walter Cathcart in Abbey Renfrew in 1800. I cannot find anything for her other than a whole list of children born to her and Walter. From what I can gather there seems to be a link of extreme importance to her in the names of Alexander and Jean (jane) She followed the Scotish tradition for names. She continued to name children Alexander & Jean, if one died bearing that name. Her parents may or may not have been Alexander & Jean however. Charlotte died between 1824 and 1831. None of her children were born bearing the name "Charlotte" I can trace no family names of Alexander & Jean to Walter. I maybe putting to much in the names Alexander & Jean, but she seemed to be drawn to those names.
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Hi, Sorry am not able to assist with Charlotte Cardwell however I do have an interest with Walter Cathcart whom she married in 1800. Walter Cathcart had 8 siblings. One of those was a John Cathcart b 1766. I believe John married a Margaret Walker in 1789. John and Margaret had a son Robert b 1793. It is Roberts movements that I am trying to trace. Have you done any research with Walters siblings? It may help me as I am also stuck in trying to match family from Ireland and England to family that were originally from Scotland.
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I think I may have some information on
can you tell me who you found to be Walters parents? I want to make sure that I am on the right track. I will look into my information and see if I have anything on John. I just saw this.
Hi, Sorry am not able to assist with Charlotte Cardwell however I do have an interest with Walter Cathcart whom she married in 1800. Walter Cathcart had 8 siblings. One of those was a John Cathcart b 1766. I believe John married a Margaret Walker in 1789. John and Margaret had a son Robert b 1793. It is Roberts movements that I am trying to trace. Have you done any research with Walters siblings? It may help me as I am also stuck in trying to match family from Ireland and England to family that were originally from Scotland.
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Hi, Walter Cathcart (b-Nov 1780) parents were father Robert Cathcart written as Robert Carcart and Mary Baird.Robert and Mary married on 10 June 1763.
Your Walter married Charlot Caldwell around 15 Jan 1800. Walter was the youngest of 8 children born to Robert Carcart and Mary Baird. Walter had an elder brother John born 1766. I believe John married a Margaret Walker in 1789. John and Margaret had a son Robert b 1793. It is that Roberts movements that I am trying to trace. Have you done any research with Walters siblings? It may help me as I am also stuck in trying to match family from Ireland and England to family that were originally from Scotland.
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Thank you. I will check all my records tonight, when I get home from work. I have not done any research on his siblings, but sometimes I do end up with a record or two on the other family members, that I saved. I Will check on that tonight. Did you find that the Cathcarts moved into Ireland any point and then back to Scotland?
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Travel records of our Cathcart family moving from Scotland to Ireland elude me. I suspect some of Walters siblings did move to Ireland and even to USA around the 1800's. It seems your Walter stayed in Scotland for his working life is recorded as died 23 Nov 1839.Paisley. Have you come across any travel information on the family.
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There will be no record of movements to and from Ireland. It was one country so no need to complete a shipping manifest. A lot of movement, to and from, between Ireland and the rest of the UK by boat at that time.
Monica :)
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My husbands 4x Great Grandparents were Walter Cathcart and Charlotte Caldwell.
Their son Robert who married Marion Storie on 23rd June 1836 is his 3x Great Grandfather.
I have 8 children for Robert Cathcart & Mary Baird. I haven't found birth details yet for Charlotte Caldwell - but I am looking!
Jean
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Fabulous! Me too If you find something please let me know. I am related to your husband. My Grandfather Walter Smith, Father Robert Smith, Wife Jean Cathcart I have all the kids birth records, Just no information on Charlotte and it makes me think that she might have been born somewhere else possibly, Like Ireland. Or of course just no record. If you need a record, before buying it let me know, I might already have it.
My husbands 4x Great Grandparents were Walter Cathcart and Charlotte Caldwell.
Their son Robert who married Marion Storie on 23rd June 1836 is his 3x Great Grandfather.
I have 8 children for Robert Cathcart & Mary Baird. I haven't found birth details yet for Charlotte Caldwell - but I am looking!
Jean
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Lovely to hear back from you. I was working on this tree last night and getting really confused. It appeared that I had duplicates in the tree. Turns out that in addition to Robert Cathcart and Marion Storie, my husband also has Mary Ann Cathcart and William Pender in his tree. Mary Ann Cathcart is the daughter of Walter Cathcart and Charlotte Caldwell. That means that two of my husbands 3x Great Grandparents were brother and sister.
I'll chew this over and get back to you for further info - likewise if you need any further info let me know.
Jean
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I will have to look at my information, Something might be wrongly connected. I will check later and get back to you.
Lovely to hear back from you. I was working on this tree last night and getting really confused. It appeared that I had duplicates in the tree. Turns out that in addition to Robert Cathcart and Marion Storie, my husband also has Mary Ann Cathcart and William Pender in his tree. Mary Ann Cathcart is the daughter of Walter Cathcart and Charlotte Caldwell. That means that two of my husbands 3x Great Grandparents were brother and sister.
I'll chew this over and get back to you for further info - likewise if you need any further info let me know.
Jean
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Hello Both!
The Cathcarts are my main point of research at the moment, having them back to 1710 so far, I come down the line of John in 1766, he would be my 4 x great grandson of John and Margaret Walker.
If any one would like to chat and has access tot his thread still or would like my email to talk direct then that would be great.
Dubhlainn Earley
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Greetings CATHCART researchers
A son of Walter CATHCART is a William CATHCART born about 1815. I have not found a death date for him but I will value your opinion about a William CATHCART who lived and settled longterm in the Argentine and founded a newspaper [below].
WILLIAM CATHCART ???
1815–
BIRTH 25 FEB 1815 • Abbey Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
DEATH DECEASED
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The Buenos Ayres Herald (the original spelling) was founded in 1876 by William Cathcart, an ageing Scot who had spent 50 years in “the Argentine.” It constituted of a single sheet with advertising on the front and mostly shipping coverage on the back (with the odd general news and community item thrown in).
https://en.mercopress.com/2017/08/02/the-buenos-aires-herald-part-of-argentina-s-history-folds-after-more-than-140-years
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=845167.msg7120323#msg7120323
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I too am interested in discovering more info re: Cathcarts and name variants.
William Cathcart of unknown origin was listed on his son John's Marriage Certificate in Dublin 1848 as a Slater, but in later documents as a Gardener and a Farmer. On John's second marriage in 1853 at Preston, Lancashire he says his father William is deceased, but I have found no record of that yet. John says he was born in Ireland in 1828 and married Ann Bowles in Dublin in 1848, moved to Preston, where she and their firstborn ( William) died in 1850. He then married Jane Dickinson ( b 1832 Bolton-le-Sands - d.1875 @ Lancaster). Their children, James, George & Annie appear in the 1861 Census @ Kendal, Westmorland and in the 1871 Census ' Alloa, Clackmannanshire, Scotland and with the addition of another son (John b.1869 @ Alloa) and a daughter Jane , I think 1867,who died in infancy.
In the 1881 Census they are dispersed but John senior and juniorand Annie are all in Lancaster at different addresses and George is @ Kendal once again.
James is in the Royal Artillery and while posted to Isle of Wight marries in 1874 to local girl Ann Maria Mitchell. (d. 1885 IoW.)
Their 5th child is Alfred Edward ( sometimes William) Cathcart, b.1884 Freshwater, Isle of Wight who marries Gladys Emma Tubby of Norfolk at Northampton in 1925, and their 2nd child is my mother Gladys Ann Cathcart.
I have much information on cousins of most of them but a few mystery folks, such as George Wilson Cathcart b. 1875 Freshwater, Isle of Wight and the whereabouts of James Cathcart after 1881 Census at South Shoebury, Essex whilst still in the Army.
John Cathcart (b.1869 @ Alloa) marries Mary Dickinson and has a family when living at Chorley, Lancs ... 1891 & 1901 Censuses. I've yet to trace them after that.
Anything you turn up which helps me will be greatly appreciated.
If you check out the Cathcarts & Kithcarts of Panfield, Essex you will note a son named Walter and they had some family move to Durham before returning to Essex.
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I have a William Cathcart birth being March 12,1815 Paisley born to Walter and Charlotte I think but I don't have a death record.