RootsChat.Com
Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: jennyrob on Thursday 17 March 11 20:29 GMT (UK)
-
Anyone know anything about this old pub
Cant find it on any old maps
My Williams family lived near it.
I also have a marriage cert saying they were married in the Calvery Church but it does say which one
Any help appreciated
-
Hello Jenny :)
The Chapel is listed on Genuki:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitFardre/Chapels.html
The Colliers Arms, Llantwit Fardre is on the 1880 Slater's Directory, with David John as the Landlord:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitFardre/Pontypridd/slaters.1880.html
Kind Regards
Morgan
-
Thanks for that reply I believe the chapel might be Bryntirion Calvinistic Methodist Church but I dont know where the pub was from that directory
-
Chapel could be Calvary English Baptist Church, Wood Road, Treforest :)
Looking at the 1881 Census, the Colliers looks to be near the Church
RG11 5299/ 8 Pg 13
-
On 1861 census Colliers Arms is next to church
I went to see Calvary English Baptist Church, Wood Road, Treforest Its about 6 miles from Llantwit Fardre It seemed a long way to go in 1869
-
What addresses are on the marriage certificate, and how far are these places from Calvary? People were often prepared to walk/travel to the Chapel of their chosen denomination, often passing several other plaecs of worship on the way.
I'm not that familiar with the area but I know that Treforest is named as a place within the boundaries of Llantwit Fardre, as are Tonteg, Glyntaff, etc. See the Genuki page on Llantwit Fardre. There were several pubs called "Colliers Arms", as you would guess! On Slaters 1858-9, Elias Thomas was at the Colliers, Treforest.
-
The Address on Marriage cert is" Next to the church" with the church being calvary church so cert has not been much help It looks like the modern day LLantwit Fardre is not the same as the old llanwit which seems to be centred round St Illtyds Church .
-
Hi there,
There is a Willliam Williams running the Colliers arms in 1851 census and in 1861 census an Elizabeth Williams.
-
Have to tell you I rang LLantwit Fardre Community Council and they were brilliant .They found an old book and scanned the photos I know have a picture of the Colliers Arms and the near by church so its worth been cheeky Thanks for your help
-
Hello Jen, I would be interested to know where the Pub was and what was the name of the church.
Many thanks
Heddwch
-
The Colliers Arms was opposite the Farmers Arms in Upper Church Villiage (there is a house called Ardwyn House there now built in 1980 )near St Illtydds Parish Church.
Upper Church Village is the orginal Llantwit Fadre.
The Chapel I was interested in was Bryntirion Calvery Methodist a short distance from centre of village If you want the images send me your e mail privately
-
Hi Heddwch
I have been trying to track you down - sorry jumping in on another post was the only way I knew how. I have responded to a post you placed a few years ago re: Hannah Barrett (Re: Irish family tree) if you are keen to discuss...
Thanks
-
Hello BeccW
Welcome to Rootschat :)
You will soon be able to use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data. New members must make at least three postings before being allowed to use the PM facility. See Help-Page: http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Best wishes
Morgan
-
Hello Jen, St lltyds is my church where I attend, and I live close by, if you need any more information do ask.
Kindest regards
Heddwch
-
Hi Jen,
My Williams family lived at the Colliers Arms. I would be very grateful to see the photograph that you obtained from the Community Council.
Regards,
John
-
http://www.shape-it.org/Community/CommunityServices/CommunityCouncils/LLantwitFrdrCommntCo/ I have it on computer somewhere It will be probably better if you ring them They are very helpful I dont think they are very busy Sorry I cant find it
-
Hello John :)
Welcome to Rootschat! Good luck with obtaining a copy of the photograph of the Colliers
Kindest regards
Morgan
-
Hi - I am also interested in the Collier's Arms---my relatives lived next to the church, last name Pratt.
-
Hi everyone
I have only just come back on line so apologies for the delay in info. I live in Llantwit Fardre and my parents are standing in the doorway of St Illtyds Church in my profile photo. This looks out onto the old Colliers Arms pub and the old Trallwm Inn, both of these have been built on and are now Ardwyn House, as previously mention and Twyn y Waun. I happen to have a copy of a book called 'Under the Parish Lantern' by my childrens old headmaster Dillwyn Lewis, which has lots of old photographs of the area, the people and various other events etc going back a long long time. It is now out of print but you may be able to get a copy from your library, its worth asking.
I have been involved in a BBC programme recorded this week regarding the Coronation celebrations to be held in June. They found some cine footage of a Coronation party held in Llantwit Fardre at the local bus depot of SA Bebb, the footage was so good most of the people were recognised and most of them came to the Bush Inn to give their thoughts on the day. It was a great reunion, everyone thoroughly enjoyed it.
I was especially thrilled because my family had run this public house since 1881 until 1967. I have been so taken with this project and have put together various family trees of the old families living here ie: Smith, Jenkins, Williams, Johns, Pearce..... to name a few. I am hoping to compile a story book of the area for future reference and some of the regulars in the pub will possibly be of great help.
I have tried to download a couple of photos but no luck as yet, will try again soon.
Regards
Nanny Mcphee
-
Hi - I am also interested in the Collier's Arms---my relatives lived next to the church, last name Pratt.
Is your family part of the Williams family of Bryn Farm, next door to Bush Inn, by any chance?
I have a Joyce Williams, married into Pratt family and had daughters Lyn and Sandra?
Nanny McPhee
-
So far I haven't come across the Williams name, but I'm new at this. Will let you know if I do! :)