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Title: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Wednesday 16 March 11 00:02 GMT (UK)
Looking for parents /  siblings / children of Giles Rumble 1690-1761 and  Mary Lyons c1689-?  He came from Compton, Berks. Don't know where Mary came from, but they were married 6th October  1715 in Thatcham, Berks. So presumably she came from there.

Also  Giles Rumbald/Rumball/Rumbold 1718-1794 and Mary Curtis 1732-1820. They were married in East Ilsley on 19th May 1758.

Finally, Thomas Rumbold 1761-1817 and Mary Claridge. Thomas was from East Ilsley, and I believe Mary came from Bucklesbury, Berks.  They were married on 10th November 1780 because that is where they were married. Don't have any further info on her. Thanks
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: ribbo39 on Wednesday 16 March 11 02:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.

I'm not sure if I can help with all your requests but, the following have been taken from the Compton PRs
(ex BFHS);
Baptisms;
19-5-1689  Mary LYON d/o/ Joseph & Alice (There are no more children being born to Alice - so
wonder if its a mistake as there are children of Jos. & Ann)

9-5-1716    Joseph RUMBALD  s/o Giles & Mary
19-8-1718  Giles           "          "      "         "
9-4-1721    Richard       "          "      "         "
3-10-1731  James         "          "      "         "
(a big gap between the last two)


Marriage;
13-10-1765 Mary CURTIS to John FULLBROOK, botp, byLicence
wits; Richard Collins, Jas Hayes

Burial;
10-11-1761  Giles RUMBALD

Hope these help.

Alan

Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Kimbrey on Wednesday 16 March 11 13:13 GMT (UK)
Giles and Mary were married 19th May 1757
Wit=William Deacon/Joanna Curtis

Rumble/Rumball/Rumbald/Rumbell/Rumbold !!

Children of Giles & Mary baptised at E/Ilsley
16 Oct 1757-John
29 May 1759-Sarah
03 May 1761-Thomas
07 jul 1764-William
gap
27 Feb 1780-Mary

Children of Thomas & Mary baptised at E/Ilsley
08 Apr 1781-Ann            bn 6th Apr
29 Dec 1782-James        bn 26 Dec
17 Apr 1785-Thomas      ------
06 May 1787-Elizabeth  bn 4th May
02 Aug 1789-Hester      bn 12 July
13 Feb 1791-Henry        --------
07 Apr 1793-Sarah         bn 16 Mar
14 Feb 1794-John          bn 10 Dec
26 Feb 1797-Susannah  bn 8th Feb
11 Oct 1801-Charlotte   bn 29 Sept
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Sloe Gin on Wednesday 16 March 11 14:00 GMT (UK)
You might be interested in these recent threads ...  ;)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,519398.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,517680.0.html

 
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Kimbrey on Wednesday 16 March 11 15:43 GMT (UK)
There is a buriel at E/Ilsley for a Mary RUMBLE 26 Jan 1820 age 87-could she have been nee CURTIS ? :) 
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Wednesday 16 March 11 16:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you all so much for your help. Is there any way to find out about the parents of Giles Rumble 1690-1761?
Any idea how far the parish registers go back? It may be, I suppose, that his parents were born in a different parish.  Any help would be brilliant, thanks : :)
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Wednesday 16 March 11 16:40 GMT (UK)
There is a buriel at E/Ilsley for a Mary RUMBLE 26 Jan 1820 age 87-could she have been nee CURTIS ? :) 
Yes, I believe that must be her the date and timeline fits perfectly. Thanks
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: newburychap on Wednesday 16 March 11 17:57 GMT (UK)
Any idea how far the parish registers go back?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,516525.0.html
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Sloe Gin on Wednesday 16 March 11 22:37 GMT (UK)
Giles and Mary were married 19th May 1757
Wit=William Deacon/Joanna Curtis

Rumble/Rumball/Rumbald/Rumbell/Rumbold !!

Children of Giles & Mary baptised at E/Ilsley
16 Oct 1757-John
29 May 1759-Sarah
03 May 1761-Thomas
07 jul 1764-William
gap
27 Feb 1780-Mary

This may have been a second marriage for Giles, as there is also
1738  Oct 16  Giles RUMBALL & Elizabeth PRIOR, botp

They have
1739     23 Sep  Giles (buried 5 May 1740)
1743     15 Nov  Bettes
1746/7  15 Feb  Henry
1749       4 Jun  Giles

Elizabeth RUMBALL was buried Sep 23 1751

Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Kimbrey on Thursday 17 March 11 09:40 GMT (UK)
The registers for East Ilsley start 1608 and I cannot see a  RUMBLE  enrtry before the 1738 marriage of Giles and Elizabeth Prior-there are some in the 1700s and LOTs  in the 1800s !

Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Thursday 17 March 11 17:25 GMT (UK)
Giles and Mary were married 19th May 1757
Wit=William Deacon/Joanna Curtis

Rumble/Rumball/Rumbald/Rumbell/Rumbold !!

Children of Giles & Mary baptised at E/Ilsley
16 Oct 1757-John
29 May 1759-Sarah
03 May 1761-Thomas
07 jul 1764-William
gap
27 Feb 1780-Mary

This may have been a second marriage for Giles, as there is also
1738  Oct 16  Giles RUMBALL & Elizabeth PRIOR, botp

They have
1739     23 Sep  Giles (buried 5 May 1740)
1743     15 Nov  Bettes
1746/7  15 Feb  Henry
1749       4 Jun  Giles

Elizabeth RUMBALL was buried Sep 23 1751


That is so interesting. I wondered whether there may be children from the previous marriage. It's nice to have it confirmed. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Thursday 17 March 11 17:29 GMT (UK)
The registers for East Ilsley start 1608 and I cannot see a  RUMBLE  enrtry before the 1738 marriage of Giles and Elizabeth Prior-there are some in the 1700s and LOTs  in the 1800s !

Thanks for taking the trouble to check for me. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Thursday 17 March 11 20:46 GMT (UK)
The family tree is beginning to make sense. I have quite a lot of names and dates for later (1800's) members of the Rumble family and being able to associate them with all the names forwarded to me has been really helpful.
Can I impose further and ask help in finding the children of John Rumble 1794-1864 and Mary Bew 1789-1852. Mary was born in Thatcham, Berks and they were married there on 13th Nov. 1814. I believe they lived in East Ilsley because I have the date of birth of one child, George Rumble born in East Ilsley in 1819.  He married:
1.Charlotte Deacon (I have no other information on her)
2.Charlotte Greenaway 1826-1866.
George and Charlotte married on 30 Nov. 1848 at 'The Meeting House' Reading, Berks.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 17 March 11 22:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,

The only baptisms from East Ilsley PRs (ex BFHS) that I can see with parents John & Mary are these;
22-12-1822 Charles RUMBLE s/o John & Mary, lab.  (b.13-10)
25-12-1825 Isaac         "         "     "           "      "
4-3-1829     John          "         "     "           "      "
plus George which you already have.
Hope these help.

Alan
Title: Re: Rumble family, East Ilsley/Compton
Post by: Sloe Gin on Friday 18 March 11 10:11 GMT (UK)
From the 'Notes on Parishioners' c1831 - see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,459879.0.html

Rumble, John         Black Hedge     
5 boys, 1 at school. Shepherd, decent man, attends Church.

Bpt. 14 Dec 1794, s/o Thomas & Mary.  Married (1) Mary (b. Crookham).  (2) Ann Jefferies (b. Ramsbury) 19 Nov 1854.  Bd. 14 April 1864 aged 69. 

Mary was bd. 24 Aug 1852 aged 64.

Ann d/o Thomas Seymour, widow of James Jefferies who was bd. 6 Feb 1848 aged 48.  Bd. 15 May 1886 aged 76.


PS -
'Charlotte' Deacon should be Catherine b1824, eldest of the 20 children of Isaac Deacon ....
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Friday 18 March 11 12:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks, I've just ordered the booklet. Should make interesting reading!
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Friday 18 March 11 12:27 GMT (UK)
Bit confused by your reply, Sloegin.

You have the birth name of his first wife Mary, down as Crookham. I thought her birth name was Bew. Could you confirm it for me. All the dates are correct, so I just wonder if,  perhaps, she was born by one name and took another later (perhaps a stepfather?).

Didn't know he remarried after Marys death. That's a turn up! Thanks for that  :)
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Friday 18 March 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,

The only baptisms from East Ilsley PRs (ex BFHS) that I can see with parents John & Mary are these;
22-12-1822 Charles RUMBLE s/o John & Mary, lab.  (b.13-10)
25-12-1825 Isaac         "         "     "           "      "
4-3-1829     John          "         "     "           "      "
plus George which you already have.
Hope these help.



Hi Alan, thanks for your help.  That's another box ticked on the Rumble Family Tree checklist! ;)
Alan
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Sloe Gin on Friday 18 March 11 15:24 GMT (UK)
You have the birth name of his first wife Mary, down as Crookham. I thought her birth name was Bew. Could you confirm it for me. All the dates are correct, so I just wonder if,  perhaps, she was born by one name and took another later (perhaps a stepfather?).

No, Crookham wasn't shown as Mary's name, but her place of birth as given in the 1851 census.  Crookham Common is adjacent to Thatcham. 

The additional notes were compiled from parish registers and census returns, where available, so are subject to the usual errors, misunderstandings and lies!  ;D  You should enjoy the little book with its scurrilous remarks, and you'll find some more Rumbles in there too, as well as the Deacons.

I would be looking in the Thatcham PR for the missing son, probably the eldest.  It was common for a woman to go home to her mother to have her first child, so he may have been baptised there too.
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Captain2 on Friday 18 March 11 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hello there lauradadaphne,  excuse me jumping in.. looks like we are looking for the same family - links SG kindly pointed out. I have quite a bit about the Rumble/Lyons/Curtis family - happy to share. If you PM me,  we can see where we are in the tree and hopefully join a few dots..

I'm descended from John Rumble ( son of Giles )...

KR - Angie
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: lauradadaphne on Sunday 20 March 11 14:45 GMT (UK)
You have the birth name of his first wife Mary, down as Crookham. I thought her birth name was Bew. Could you confirm it for me. All the dates are correct, so I just wonder if,  perhaps, she was born by one name and took another later (perhaps a stepfather?).

No, Crookham wasn't shown as Mary's name, but her place of birth as given in the 1851 census.  Crookham Common is adjacent to Thatcham. 

The additional notes were compiled from parish registers and census returns, where available, so are subject to the usual errors, misunderstandings and lies!  ;D  You should enjoy the little book with its scurrilous remarks, and you'll find some more Rumbles in there too, as well as the Deacons.

I would be looking in the Thatcham PR for the missing son, probably the eldest.  It was common for a woman to go home to her mother to have her first child, so he may have been baptised there too.

Thanks for clearing that up.   ;D
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Ermintrude46 on Sunday 03 April 11 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi there,
Count me in too, I'm descended from Henry Rumble, son of Giles and Elizabeth (Prior) Rumble baptised at EI on 15 Feb 1745/6 who married Ann Penn in Cholsey on 14/02/1776.  I also haven't got back any further then Giles and Mary (Lyons) Rumble in East Ilsley, but be happy to share what I do have.
Ermy
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Captain2 on Monday 04 April 11 17:56 BST (UK)
Hello Ermy  ;D  I am descended from Henry's younger brother John (1757) son to Giles & Mary Curttis.  Laura and I went off post to fill in the gaps in the tree - only because there was a lot of emails - would be great to hear where you are with the family and to share info. I will PM shortly with John Rumble details...

KR - Angie
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: RumbleSteven on Saturday 06 March 21 18:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys,
I know this is an old post, but I’ve only just stumbled across it.
Is anyone still searching this family tree? I’m also a descendant of Giles Rumble, Bumbald or Rumbold.

Be interested if anyone had more information.

Many thanks

Steven
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Cuckoobushes on Saturday 06 March 21 20:22 GMT (UK)
Hi, I just discovered this thread today

Descended from Giles Rumble etc son Thomas.

I'm interested in Emma Rumble born 1837...did she really have 7 illegitimate children as well as the two by Richard Mills...or was she married to a cousin with the same name?

Amanda
Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: RumbleSteven on Saturday 06 March 21 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
I dont know much unfortunately but all I have is the following:

Starting from Giles and Elizabeth Prior -
Henry Rumble and Ann Penn-
James and Sarah
John and Eliza
Richard Rumble and Elizebeth Curtis
Then it’s my great grandad Alfred and my Grandad Ernest Rumble

Be interested to know where any of you fit in that time line if you do?

Please feel free to message me and we’ll swap emails if you like?

Title: Re: Rumble family, east ilsley/Compton
Post by: Sloe Gin on Sunday 07 March 21 15:16 GMT (UK)
Hi, I just discovered this thread today

Descended from Giles Rumble etc son Thomas.

I'm interested in Emma Rumble born 1837...did she really have 7 illegitimate children as well as the two by Richard Mills...or was she married to a cousin with the same name?

Amanda
That's an interesting one!
 
Banns were called for Richard Mills and Emma Rumble in September 1858 but the register notes
"NB Not married.  Three months expired Dec 19."
They finally got around to tying the knot on 12 September 1875.  Better late than never!

Emma seems to have had ten children before the two born in wedlock.  Three died in infancy.  Of course the Rector would have been aware that Richard & Emma weren't married. I think it was the same incumbent throughout the period of interest.
 
In 1861 Emma was living with her sister Martha and the two eldest children, Elizabeth Ann and William Richard, but I don't know where Richard was.
In 1871 Richard and Emma appear to be living together with all the children, but he is shown separately as a lodger, so that was glossed over  ;)
And in 1881 the whole family appears as Mills.

Do you have the baptisms for all the children?  Most of them have godparents entered as well, which is a nice bonus.