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I am trying to track a James Palmer possibly born in Melton Mowbray around 1791 and died between 1841 and 1851.
He married a Frances Pears at Great Dalby on 14/1/1813 (marriage record show him coming from the Parish of Melton Mowbray. In 1841 he was living in Melton Mowbray (aged 50). In 1851, Frances was a widow. They had 2 children that I know of Elizabeth (aged 20 in 1841) and Frances (aged 15 in 1841).
Many thanks. Blueowl
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Hi & welcome to RC & the Leics board.
there are 2 deaths of a James Palmer in Melton registration between 1841 & 1851:
Dec 1842 melton Mowbray 15/149
Sept 1850 Melton Mowbray 15 /133
no way of knowing which is him at this point. maybe Mike will find the burials and there may be a clue if buried with family.
haven't found a baptism yet
Diddy
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old family search site has other children for James & Frances
all melton:
James 28/2/1814
Ann 27/5/1815
Elizabeth 21/3/1817
Edward 3/9/1819
Frances 22/2/1822
Diddy
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Lots of Palmers in Melton on the freereg site:
http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl
James 1814 baptism - they are down as living in Eyekettleby,Melton
burial:
James 22/3/1814 aged 3m Eyekettleby
James 8/9/1850 aged 63 (b.1787) Melton - think this is the sept 1850 i gave you. -this could be yours as ages on the 1841 census were rounded.
Diddy
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Hello, and thanks for the quick responses.
Yes I found records from FreeBMD of the two deaths in 1842 and 50.
Thanks for the 'extra' three siblings of Frances which I hadn't looked for - is that a searcheable site you can tell me or is it the one in your later post?
I had seen some Eye Kettleby Palmers, but wasn't sure of any link. Could be my James ! Will check out the freereg link.
Many thanks.
Blueowl.
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Hi old family search site:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
new one now available but i find difficult to use so sticking to old one until it disappears!!
Diddy
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Greeting’s Folks . …..
I can only find Burial details for just one of those Death Indexes
St; Mary’s Parish Church.
Melton Mowbray.
1850.
Parish Burial Register Entry. No’. 410.
James Palmer.
Abode. ….Melton Mowbray.
8th. September.
Aged. ….63.
No sign of the other one and not even Frances ……Sorry.
MIKE. …….
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Mike,
many thanks for the last post. I'm fairly new to this lark, so apologies if these are dumb questions !
Assuming this is 'my' James, I've checked the following for his birth/christening (as I have no idea of the names of his parents) :
freereg
the Church of LDS www.familysearch.org site which Diddy referred me to. This one lists a James' baptism on 22/4/1789 at St Marys Leicester. Date not bad, but Leicester, not Melton or nearby.
Any other suggestions to locate his birth/baptism record? His 1841 census record says he was born in Leicestershire. He lived/possibly died in Melton but married in Gt Dalby.
What in your experience is the chance of his gravestone being present & legible if I visited Melton? It may contain some family member information ......
Are the burial records available in image form anywhere on the www?
Regards Blueowl
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you could try contacting Melton Library direct as they seem to have a good FH section:
Melton Mowbray Library
Wilton Road, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, LE13 0UJ
Map with location of Melton Library
Tel: 0116 305 3646
Fax: 01664 410199
E-mail: meltonmowbraylibrary at leics.gov.uk
also the Melton museum:
Contact : Melton Carnegie Museum
Telephone : 0116 305 3860
E-mail : meltonmuseum at leics.gov.uk
Diddy
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Greeting’s Blue Owl. ....... & Welcome to the Leicestershire Boards…..
I have had a bit of a dig around…….
A Better Baptism to get closer to your original post of looking for
A James Palmer born c 1791 in the Melton Mowbray Area :~
St: Peter’s Parish Church.
KIRBY BELLARS.
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BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI. :~ 1787.
James. Son of Edward & Elizabeth Palmer. ..Bapt. …28th. February.
Kirby Bellars being only 2.7 Miles south west of Melton.
Re:~ survival of a Headstone of aprox 161 years old.?
This will depend on :~
Type of Stone / Slate…….( Slate stood a better chance )
If the face of the stone faced all the bad weather conditions.
And the saddest one. …….
Seems most of the Churches now use outside contractors to keep the grass
Cut and tidy. ……..In doing so most Headstones are removed and propped up against the Church walls in order the mowers have a clear run…
Therefore. …….
You still have no idea where the deceased person’s finial resting place was …….
MIKE. ….
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Mike (& Diddy),
thanks both for your efforts. I reckon I'll get across to Melton at some stage and stop in at Kirby Bellars too.
However, and I'm not sure how this forum works, you can flag this as Completed.
Best Regards
Blueowl.
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Greeting’s again. …Blue Owl.
In order to signify that this thread is complete……..
As you are the Author of this thread….
You need to click on your 1st post using the “ Modify” Icon
Next window to open……
Left Click on the “ Subject box “
This will place the cursor within the text. …..
Navigate the cursor to the end of the text…….
using the arrowed keys on your keyboard
Press space bar….
Type the word COMPLETED in capitals
Then click the “ Save” Icon at the bottom in the usual way.
The Moderators will pick the completed thread up
and move it to the Completed section.for Leicestershire.
Hope this helps….
MIKE. …..
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Just before you complete it.........having read your post and looking for my own FH I noticed Palmer Eleanor, Milliner which is under Traders in the Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Universal British Directory 1791...
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1821 Population Head Count
for Melton Mowbray
( Fore runner to the Censuses )
We have the Households of the following :~
William Palmer Man’f by Trade.
Adult Males. ….1.
Adult Females. …1.
Boys under 20 yrs old…..4.
Girls under 20 yrs old. …2.
Daniel Pears….Man’f by Trade.
Adult Males. …1.
Adult Females. ….1.
Boys under 20 yrs old. …..1.
John Pears. ..Man’f by Trade.
Adult Males…….1.
Adult Females. …1.
Boys under 20 yrs old. ….2.
Girls under 20 yrs old. …..1.
MIKE. …..
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Hi
James Palmer and wife Frances James died /buried Sept 5th 1850 Frances April 28th 1858
stones were in King Street Church Cemetery in Melton Mowbray and were read and recorded before St Marys Way went through the middle.
All stones now are round the edge of the site ,as it is a closed burial ground and roadwork took place.
Hope this helps only other Palmer stones which exist are two young boys in the churchyard whose parents came from Nottinghamshre
Hope this helps
best wishes