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Title: seeking answers - only child/his name was Edgar Raymond Hayward Pritchard
Post by: sandgroper38 on Monday 14 March 11 10:51 GMT (UK)
anyone know  if my father was an only child/his name was Edgar Raymond Hayward Pritchard born  in Clent/Burmingham,1/11/1905 died 17/9/1966 in West Australia/buried at Karrakatta/  I never knew him /my parents separated after the war/I was born 1938. in Carnarvon WA
thanks  sandgroper38.
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: WILLIAM 1 on Monday 14 March 11 11:08 GMT (UK)
hi have you tried to look up the census for before he was born and after he was born that would give you all the people who where there at the time of the census. i hope this helps you
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 14 March 11 11:12 GMT (UK)
Pity he was born before 1911/12 - when mothers maiden names were shown in the Birth Index.

Births Dec 1905 
 
Pritchard  Edgar Raymond H     Bromsgrove  6c 332


Try and find him in the 1911 census Index site - http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 01 April 11 16:34 BST (UK)
Hi,

I couldn't find Edgar in 1911 as this might be why,

Ship:  ORSOVA
Departure:  06 January 1910 London     
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia 

Wm H PRITCHARD    Married    Occupation: Engineer
Mrs          "                "         Housewife
Edgar       "
   
 
 
There is this marriage which could be his parents,

William Henry PRITCHARD    Mar Q 1905    Kings Norton    6c  494

other people with the same reference
Ada Mary HAYWARD
Kathleen MACREADY
William Henry OSBORN

It looks like William Henry PRITCHARD married Ada Mary HAYWARD especially as Edgar had a middle name Harvey.


We can't do transcriptions of the 1911 but in 1901 Kins NortonRD I can see a Kathleen MACREADY age:20 born: Harborne Staffordshire, she appears to be Kathleen OSBORNE in 1911.


You would need to get Edgar's birth certificate to be sure.


Regards,
Daisy





Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: Mort29 on Friday 01 April 11 16:35 BST (UK)
Nice work  8)
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Friday 01 April 11 22:30 BST (UK)
Sounds like my  grandparents  alright!! William Henry and Ada Mary  Pritchard  and son,Edgar,  came out to Freemantle WA,  about that time/  subsequently moved up to Carnarvon to a job at the Comercial Club /secretary?? i believe?
so it seems as though there were no brothers or sisters  . My father, Edgar Raymond Hayward Pritchard  ( known as Ray)  worked  at Dalgheties/??stock and station  merchants,before and after the 2nd WW.until he retired  ill in the 1960,s
Thanks for all your help.  Gerry P.
I will keep  communications open  for  any further  info??

Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sue21757 on Saturday 02 April 11 13:17 BST (UK)
Looks like William Henry Pritchard remarried after Ada died in 1930

Perth 1931
Pritchard   William H         
Brameld   May

I suppose you know that Edgar married a second time

Gascoyne  1927
Pritchard   Edgar R H   Gascoyne      
Woodward   Elva V

Perth  1947
Pritchard   Edgar R H      
Jones    Olivia A

There are a few articles about William Henry Pritchard

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

Cheers Sue
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Saturday 02 April 11 14:11 BST (UK)
Thanks Sue,   I knew    ERH P  re married /   he married  Olive?  and my elder Bro /and sis  lived with them for a time?  I stayed with Mum,   my parents separated after the  war/and I never  met him or knew  him till about  1960 /after I was married and he paid a visit to my older sister in perth and i spoke to him for  30 seconds  in the driveway??  He  completely disowned me  and I often wonder if he was my real dad or not??

That info about  William Henry  remarrying  is news to me?? last i heard  of my grandparents was they lived at Forestfield/and he was an orchardist?? I dont know  when they passed on ??
thanks  sandgroper38
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: Essie on Sunday 03 April 11 00:47 BST (UK)
Burial records have William Henry aged 61 of Kelmscott.
Date 9 Apr 1941.
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

It appears second wife May married again in 1942.
http://www.wamarriage.info/

Essie
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Sunday 03 April 11 01:55 BST (UK)
Hi Essie,  thanks for that /  i never knew anything about my  Fathers parents til now/ and obviously I was too young to remember anything about  him/Gm having died  much earlier.
 I guess thats about as far as i can go with  ,digging up the past?? I was  just interested to know that most of my forebearers  all died  reasonable  young//  60--68  ,even my elder bro was 68,(dec.  1999)  so I have managed to  set a precedent by reaching  almost 73???
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: cando on Sunday 03 April 11 02:27 BST (UK)
Deaths
PRITCHARD William H
District Perth  Reg#750     1941

Re-marriage

PRITCHARD   May   
UNDERDOWN Thomas
District Canning   Reg#15   1942   
  
UNDERDOWN May  80  years
Father Arthur   Mother Rosetta A
District Perth   Reg#3996/75
Burial record - in the adjacent grave to William Henry PRITCHARD
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00152389

Australian Electoral Roll
1943
UNDERDOWN May  Albany Road, Kelmscott  HD

1949
UNDERDOWN May  Middleton Road, Albany  HD
UNDERDOWN Thomas  North Albany  Retired Farmer

1954
UNDERDOWN May "Newholme" Ulster Road, Spencer Park HD
UNDERDOWN Thomas  Albany Highway Albany  Farmer


Australian Electoral Rolls
1916
PRITCHARD  Ada  514 Hay Street, Perth  HD
PRITCHARD William Henry  514 Hay Street, Perth  Steward

1925
PRITCHARD Ada  Carnarvon Club  House duties
PTIRCHARD William Henry Carnarvon Club  Steward

1931, 1936, 1937
PRITCHARD May Homestead Road, Gosnells  HD
PRITCHARD William Henry Homestead Road, Gosnells  Orchardist

1931, 1936, 1937, 1943
PRITCHARD Edgar Raymond Hayward  Brown Street, Carnarvon  Clerk
PRITCHARD Ella Violet  Brown Street, Carnarvon    Married

1949
PRITCHARD Ella Violet 76 Thomas Street, West Perth  -

1954
PRITCHARD Edgar Raymond Hayward  4 Leonora Street, Como  Clerk
PRITCHARD Olivia Amherst  4 Leonora Street, Como  HD

and also at

PRITCHARD Edward Raymond Hayward  Hummerston Road, Kalamunda  Clerk
PRITCHARD Olivia Amherst  Hummerston Road, Kalamunda  HD

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: cando on Sunday 03 April 11 02:48 BST (UK)
William H was finded 10/- - parking fine ;D
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ckx/

Ada's funeral notice
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cky/

William H's death and funeral notice.  No mention of [Edgar] Ray's 2nd wife only first wife and grandchildren.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ckz/

Interest obituary for William H PRITCHARD
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ckw/

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Sunday 03 April 11 04:18 BST (UK)
Cheers Cando!!   very interesting  two posts/     I never knew we  were mentioned in WHP ,s  funeral  notices.  I am going to contact  elder sister W and see if she remembers  anything about Him??   :) also a lot of  that info re the pritchards   all ties in  to my  known memories.
thanks very much for all this  /it does answer a lot of  unknown  answers??

GP
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: cando on Monday 04 April 11 02:01 BST (UK)
It would appear that WHP had a sister Clara and hubby in Aus as well.

Australian Electoral Roll
1954
BRAMELD Clara  30 Cook Street, West Perth  HD
BRAMELD George Francis  30 Cook Street, West Perth Butcher
and next door
BRAMELD George Eric  28 Cook Street, West Perth  Storeman
BRAMELD Patricia June  28 Cook Street, West Perth  HD

Burial records
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

Have you a copy of your father's WW2 service records
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=751787#summary1

Cheers
Cando





Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Monday 04 April 11 04:29 BST (UK)
Cheers again CANDO/    I am guessing that would be  his  sisterand brother inlaws  from his  second marriage  to M ay  Brameld in 1931  se  post by SUE:21757
then she in turn  remarried  after William Henry died in 1941 to a  Thomas Underdown..  so they are not  biological relatives?? ( is that  correct??)
 yes I do have some  of Edgar(Rays)  army records, but i did notice they have missplet  one of his second names//  Haywood  should be  HAYWARD,so I have sent them an email to set it  right??
Have been trying to contact my sister to see if she remembers any of this  new info   you have been  finding for me?? think she and hubby are away on hols.
when my elder brother passed away 1999/his wife passed  some memoriblia of Ray  to me/  some personal photos/war records and  service medals/  which I in turn passed on to my son, B R P, ex navy submarines,   who has had them remounted,and is quite proud of them.
Sandgroper38.

Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: cando on Monday 04 April 11 08:19 BST (UK)
Yes you are correct about the BRAMELD's.

Pleased your family have some memorabilia from Ray and it is obviously appreciated. :)

Cheers :)
Cando
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: DeeFM on Monday 10 June 13 23:05 BST (UK)
hello sandgroper38.

I have just found your posts of 2011.  I am a great niece of Ada Mary Pritchard (nee Hayward).  Her mother, Elizabeth Warburton is my great-grandmother and her sister, Winifred Beatrice Emma is my grandmother.  Elizabeth and two of her children, Winifred and Joseph, came to Queensland where  Winifred married Horace Greaves.  Another sister, Annie, was already in Rockhampton by the time they arrived.  My aunt Beatrice told us about Ada, knew only that she had died quite young (thought to be a riding accident).  We only knew her married name was Pritchard and there was mention of an orchard in WA. 
Would love to hear from you.
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: DeeFM on Wednesday 12 June 13 04:43 BST (UK)
Hello again sandgroper38
I tried to reply to your reply.  I'm unable to do so as this is only my second post and apparently I can't do that until I have 3 posts under my belt. 
I too live in Qld 4650 and as soon as I can do so I will send you my email address on PM.  Very excited to find you so hope to make contact asap.
Title: Re: seeking answers
Post by: sandgroper38 on Wednesday 12 June 13 06:36 BST (UK)
OK   not sure  how to go about it??  with security??  Maybe i can send you my  email add??  cheers  Gerry P