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Title: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Tricie on Saturday 12 March 11 08:06 GMT (UK)
Following the death of her parents my mother was placed in I believe a Barnardo Home, Wordsworth Road, Shirley from 1916 till 1923.  I can find no information or photos of this Home.

Would anyone be able to help me?
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 08:13 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welocme to Rootschat

Barnardos have an online list of all their homes

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history/barnardos_homes.htm

Do you mean Shirley Southampton Hampshire because you have posted on the London and Middlesex board? There was a Barnardos home in Shirley Southampton but not in Wordsworth Road, or do you mean Shirley in London (Shirley Croydon?)


Regards

Valda

Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 08:16 GMT (UK)
Hi


'Ashdene,
33 Regents Park Road,
Shirley,
Southampton.

Opened 1902 as a home for boys. 1929 provided training for girls moved from Wordsworth Road. 1939-40 a hostel for shipping boys. Closed during war years 1939-45.
Closed December 1973.'


http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history/barnardos_homes/barnardos_homes_se.htm


Regards

Valda


Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 08:30 GMT (UK)
Hi


The fact that it is not listed by Barnados may mean that it was not a Barnardos Home but children were moved to the local Barnardos Home when it closed?

Would you like me to move your post to the Hampshire Board where local Hampshire specialists may be able to help further.


Regards

Valda
co-moderator London and Middlesex
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Tricie on Saturday 12 March 11 10:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I am in Australia so don't have a good knowledge of the areas..... I have documentation from Barnardos that my mother was sent to the Girls Village Home in Barkingside in Essex for one month in 1916.  Then moved to the "Home at Wordsworth Road Shirley near Southampton. "  She stayed at this home until 1923, returned to the Girls Village Home before sailing for New South Wales.

My dilemma is that I can find no information or photographs at all on the Home where my mother spent her childhood.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 11:58 GMT (UK)
Hi


You can obtain your mother's records from Barnardos but they charge a quite high fee.


http://www.barnardos.org.uk/fosteringandadoption/fosteringandadoption_resources/fosteringandadoption_making_connections.htm

You could email them and ask about the home since it doesn't seem to be on their list. They list two homes in Southampton

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history/barnardos_homes/barnardos_homes_se.htm


This webpage however indicates the home and houses in the Wordsworth Road area was run by the poor law guardians

http://www.shirley-inf.southampton.sch.uk/school/about_us.htm


There certainly were a series of Cottage Homes established by the Southampton poor law guardians around Hollybrook Children's Home (boys) though the Workhouse website does not show one specifically in Wordsworth Road.


Workhouse website (put Southampton into the search engine)

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/


The records for these cottage homes will be held at Southampton Archives and they will be able to confirm whether one was at Wordsworth Road at the time you are interested in, in which case Barnardos purely took the children for short periods for whatever reason.


http://www.workhouses.org.uk/


I will move your post to the Hampshire board as someone may have local knowledge which may help  further.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Tricie on Saturday 12 March 11 12:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your suggestions Valda.  What information I have is from Barnardos.  However, despite my mother being at the Shirley Home, they stated that they 'have no photographs or information about the Home in Shirley'.  Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hi


Try Southampton Archives and establish who actually administered the Wordsworth Road 'Home'.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 12 March 11 13:16 GMT (UK)
Here's a photograph of Ashdene

http://www.goldonian.org/photos/photo_archive_homes/pages/ashdene.htm
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 12 March 11 13:31 GMT (UK)
The Hampshire CALM database shows that it was the home of Rev Robert Durant Buttemer and his wife Mary in the late 1800s

There is also a Land review form: 'Ashdene', 133 Regents Park Road, Southampton (children's home, in association with Forest View Family Resource Centre dated 1988.

http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServe/Advsearch.htm
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Saturday 12 March 11 13:35 GMT (UK)
Hi bearkat

That is the Barnardos Home in Shirley Southampton but it isn't in Wordsworth Road. Barnardos acknowledge this home on their website with the phoptograph.

The information they give has already been included, which mentions Wordsworth Road. Ashdene seems to be a home for boys.

Quote
'Ashdene,
33 Regents Park Road,
Shirley,
Southampton.
Opened 1902 as a home for boys. 1929 provided training for girls moved from Wordsworth Road. 1939-40 a hostel for shipping boys. Closed during war years 1939-45.
Closed December 1973.'


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 12 March 11 13:53 GMT (UK)
The 1925 Kellys Directory lists

16, Wordsworth Road Dr Barnado's Homes (National Incorporated Association), Training Home for Girls.
Mrs R E YOUNG, matron

It was situated between Didcot Road & Winchester Road.


http://www.plimsoll.org/images/1925streetf_tcm4-165274.pdf

Try looking at Google streeview - it's either now a block of flats or it's the house behind the bushes next door.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: toysandboats on Saturday 12 March 11 22:46 GMT (UK)
If you type: Wordsworth Road, Southampton  into Google Street View, then move in front of the second house along towards Winchester Road from Didcot Road (actually going north west along Wordsworth Road). The house has 4 green wheely bins in the front garden.
Look up at the front of the house and there is a large cream coloured scroll  on the wall just above the upstairs windows that says "Barnardo Memorial Wing".

This must be the house that you want

Good Luck

David
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Valda on Sunday 13 March 11 08:01 GMT (UK)
Hi


It looks like it might have once been all three of those houses - the two to the left seem connected. Great finding the plaque is still there. If Barnardoes can't produce a photograph of the house in an earlier period try Southampton Archives and see if they have anything. The numbers in the street may have been renumbered because this doesn't seem to be 16 now?


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Tricie on Sunday 13 March 11 08:47 GMT (UK)
I am so grateful for all your help, particularly for this latest info. on the house with the 'Barnardo Memorial Wing'.  I will be going into Google street view asap.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: mellytm on Tuesday 06 September 11 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi ,dont kno if you stil need help,but i used to live in a barnados home,called ashdene,in regents park road,20years ago.it did close down a few years later.but i lived there for 6years.if i can be of any help plz let me kno
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: madge2 on Friday 27 April 12 17:02 BST (UK)
Tricie

I do not know if you now have the information you need. I am part of of group called the Friends of St James Park. The park is the other side of Wordsworth Road Southampton from the home you are interested. We have a history research group who are looking into the history of the area around the park, including this home.
If you care to get in touch via our website http://www.fosjp.org.uk/
we may be able to help you.

Madge
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Farmlass on Sunday 27 May 12 11:18 BST (UK)
Were the Barnados the only organisation running orphanages/childrens' homes in the Southampton area? In 1953 I was placed in a home in Southampton for 9 months and taken out at 18 months. My first memories are of this place. I would like to try and find out where it was. The people who rescued me can't remember the details or location. Does anyone know if there were other places in or around Southampton. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ashdene. Look forward to any information that could help me with my search.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: Paul Junior on Wednesday 24 October 18 23:57 BST (UK)
I was at Ashdene for around 2 years around 1990
it was a big old haunted house not nice at all.
I can still feel the atmosphere now 2018 it was lonely.
I Looking back it had the original fireplaces.

Color Photo Of Ashdene
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlKqEJCCpv0Rh6dY8Pi9B1WlzBN6ZQ

Ashdene
33 Regents Park Road,
Shirley,
Southampton.
Title: Re: Shirley orphanage, near Southampton
Post by: PJFreeman369 on Tuesday 06 December 22 22:37 GMT (UK)
Ashdene children's home, Southampton
33 Regents Park Road,
Shirley, Southampton.

I lived hear not a good place. lived hear in the 1990s was not the best of homes. lots of paranormal activity.