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Title: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Friday 11 March 11 10:07 GMT (UK)
Has anyone got information (ascendants etc) on Ann Porritt b around 1807 who married Richard King prior to 1848.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 11 March 11 13:05 GMT (UK)
Have you got an area?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Friday 11 March 11 14:51 GMT (UK)
jennifer,
I'm afraid it's just from a census: Middlesex, London ???
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 11 March 11 14:53 GMT (UK)
Can you give details of the census?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Friday 11 March 11 14:58 GMT (UK)
1861 census in which she's married to Richard, and I have their marriage cert so that's how I know her maiden name...
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: Valda on Friday 11 March 11 16:52 GMT (UK)
Hi


It looks like you already have the family on the 1851 census


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,512455.0.html

which indicates her name may have been Mary Ann and the marriage might have taken place before the beginning of civil registration.


1841 census HO107 1243/12 folio 4
Uckerby Yorkshire
Frances King 78 Miller
Mary King 76
Richard King 33
Frances King 15
Mary King 32
Mary King 1
all born in county except Mary aged 32


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Saturday 12 March 11 21:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Valda!  ;D
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: Valda on Sunday 13 March 11 08:44 GMT (UK)
Hi

There is this marriage

Marriages Jun 1839   
BELWOOD  John    Northallerton  24 435   
ETHERINGTON  Ralph     Northallerton  24 435   
KILBURN  Elizabeth     Northallerton  21 435   
KING  Richard     Northallerton  26 435   
PATTISON  Esther     Northallerton  24 435   
POINT  Ann     Northallerton  24 435


Northallerton civil registration district  covered these registration districts

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/northallerton.html


The civil registration district would be adjacent to Uckerby in Richmond civil registration district sub district Catterick, but Yorkshire civil registration districts covered large areas.


Richard King is an incorrect volume number in the GRO index if he married in Northallerton civil registration district so his name on FreeBMD doesn't come up with the other 5. However it does give the correct 6 names for three marriages that would be found on the same page of the GRO volume, one spouse being Ann Point? Richard King could have married any of the three women named and Ann Point if he married her would have to be in reality Ann Porrit (unless the birth certificate was the record with the incorrect spelling) so this is a risky certificate.



Whereas a baptism for Porrit hasn't yet been found there is one for Point but not in not Middlesex but Lambeth which would now be seen as inner London - some other children were baptised in Middlesex.

19th November 1809 St Mary Lambeth Surrey born 18th September
Mary Ann Point parents William and Ann Margaret

other children are baptised in the surname Points (both parents were buried as Points in Lambeth, William was a barge builder)

The downside is a Mary Ann Points married William Crack in 1831 at St Saviour Southwark so probably unfortunately a red herring.


Regards

Valda

Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Monday 14 March 11 10:14 GMT (UK)
Valda,
That's fantastic research! I'm getting grief from someone else for not replying quick enough so thanks!
Point sounds a reasonable assumption - the Porritt is noted on her wedding cert to Richard but presume it could have been misheard whilst doing the cert?
And the time between marrying Crack and King is 8 years so could realistically be the same Ann if Crack died between the two dates...
Thanks again  ;D
David
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: Pels. on Monday 14 March 11 17:49 GMT (UK)

I'm getting grief from someone else for not replying quick enough so thanks!


Presumably the same someone who has spent a great deal of her time trying to piece things together for you, with very little information to go on. I find that remark very disappointing David.

Pels.
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: Valda on Tuesday 15 March 11 07:00 GMT (UK)
Hi


So are you saying you already have the marriage certificate of Richard King to Ann (which may or may not be the 1839 one) and that you therefore know the name of her father and his occupation?


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Ann Porritt - London
Post by: davidhardcastle on Tuesday 15 March 11 19:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Valda,
Sorry I was getting confused! - I have the birth cert of Francis Robert King which is where it states mother's name: Ann King, formerly Porritt..

David