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Title: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: Kiki1958 on Thursday 10 March 11 22:57 GMT (UK)
Can anybody find Henry Hignell in the 1891 census?  I can't.  According to freebmd.co,uk , Henry Hignell 's death was recorded in Abergavenny , Volume 11a, page 34.  Does this mean he was no longer living in St. Woollos, Newport? ( he'd been there since 1841)

Is it  possible he had been sent to the hospital/asylum, or could he have been in prison? 
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: Kiki1958 on Thursday 10 March 11 22:59 GMT (UK)
I forgot to add the death was recorded in June 1892.  Could his family have delayed in recording it, and why in another district? 
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: WELSHNEV on Thursday 10 March 11 23:00 GMT (UK)
Hi
What year was his death recorded in ?
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: WELSHNEV on Thursday 10 March 11 23:00 GMT (UK)
ok must have just beat me to it sorry
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: WELSHNEV on Friday 11 March 11 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hi
I can not find Henry or any other Hignell for Monmouth/Glamorgan in 1891 Census  The only one close for monmouthshire was a Mary Hignett in St Woolos so it may be worth your while checking for spelling mistakes.
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: Kiki1958 on Friday 11 March 11 02:17 GMT (UK)
Yes, I believe that was Mary Hignell, not Hignett, and she was Henry's sister.  All the same, I'll try a Hignet search in both England and Wales.

Odd, how my Grandma never talked about her family, and they are still proving quite elusive.  I even checked the NYC records to see if he was visiting his Daughter, Mary Jane Diamond, in Brooklyn, or was living with her.  Only found one Henry Hignell, who was born in Duchess County, NY in 1865.  Nothing in the Immigration records.
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 11 March 11 03:15 GMT (UK)
Hi I believe the death in Abergavenny in 1862 is more than likely this man:-
  Henry Hignett (Looks like Hignell on original) Inmate/Widower 67 occ Wharf Labourer/Lunatic b Hollestone Gloucs, I have no idea where that place is in relationship to St Woolos?
Residing at Joint Counties Lunatic Asylum, Abergavenny.
Census Ref RG12/4348/140/20
Keyboard86
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: Kiki1958 on Friday 11 March 11 15:23 GMT (UK)
Oh, how sad.  I was afraid it was something like that.  It's got to be the right Henry Hignell, because he appeared as a general laborer in the previous censuses.  Once I get my life reorganized ( am dealing with two chronic illnesses) and get back to work, I want to take a trip to Wales, Gloucestershire, and Devon, to visit the archives in person. 

According to GoogleEarth, Abergavenny is about a 30 minute car ride from Newport.  How awful for his Sisters, and his daughter, Henrietta.  At times, the research is fairly routine, but then a human tragedy like this just slaps you in the face. 

Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 11 March 11 15:32 GMT (UK)
Hi as you say, very sad, the pob of Hollestone is clearly written on original, but it does not appear as that name on modern Google Maps, do you or any RC's know where it was in Gloucestershire?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: 1891 Census Henry Hignell
Post by: Kiki1958 on Friday 11 March 11 15:35 GMT (UK)
No--and the Hignells of Newport seem to give varying names for their birthplace.  Berkeley, Northwick, etc.  I will have a look later on Genuki.

Had a look, and on the map of the South Cotswold parishes,  I found Hill Parish, where Thomas Hignell married Sarah Burroughs ( Henry's parents) in 1812.  Stone Parish lies between Hill Parish and Berkley Parish ( which HH gave as his birthplace in the 1871 Wales census)

Conjecture:  if Mr. Hignell was older, mentally ill, and missing several teeth, he might have said "Hill , uh Stone" which could sound like "Hollestone".  Also, he may not have been legally competent to give evidence in either the modern or Victorian sense.

I looked at the old parish maps and did not find "Hollestone' or a close variant.

Completed, unless anybody else finds a "Hollestone" in Gloucestershire