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Hope someone (Mike?) could help me with another little puzzle. My great grandfather Joseph Blakesley (often transcribed as Blaksley) lost my great grandmother (Emma) in June quarter 1882 when my gran was 4. In Sep quarter 1883 he married again - according to freeBMD to Sarah Ann BLAKSLEY. As this sounds a little unusual could any other sources be checked?
Thanks in anticipation
Richard
Makes a change from Poles!
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;D........“ Yeah poles apart !!! “……… ;D
Just spotted some Blaksley’s ( 1891 census)…. living in ……….
Yes you’ve guess it …. ” Belgrave !!!!! …Oh Joy !!! “ ….. ::)
The trick will be knowing which Church Joseph & Sarah Ann married in .. :-\
MIKE. ……
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Greeting’s again. …….
Is this the Family ? ……
Welford Road Cemetery Leicester.
Plot No’. U. I. 677.
I 677 F BLAKSLEY Emma Elizabeth 1882 May 20 Aged.27
Upper Kent Street Saint George 48997
I 677 F TYRES John 1902 Jan 23 81
County Asylum Leicester 91080
I 677 F BLAKSLEY Edgar 1918 May 7 33
Mental Hospital Narborough' 105400
I 677 F BLAKESLEY Joseph 1920 May 25 Aged.68
Mental Hospital Leicester 108528
I 677 F BLAKELEY Sarah Ann 1935 Sep 18 Aged.84
38 Upper Tichborne Street Leicester 123298
MIKE. ….
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Greeting’s again…….
I’m not 100% sure but I think this could well be Emma’s Parents Marriage. ?:~
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No.419, September 8th., 1847, after Banns.
NATHANIEL BLAKSLEY, Full age, Bachelor. Servant, Of London Road,
Son. of JOSEPH BLAKSLEY, …….Labourer
MARTHA ROE, Full age, Spinster. of Free Lane,
Daughter. of WILLIAM ROE,……. Labourer
Wits: Charles Blaksley, Eliza Padmore
MIKE. ….
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Hi Mike
Thanks again for assistance. I don't know what we'd do without you. I try to help a bit on the Dorset board (I'm getting quite good at photographing gravestones!), but we don't have anyone with your range of resources.
Starting with the easy bit - the Welford Road details are the right family - Emma (Elizabeth Storer) was Joseph's first wife - my great grandmother. Not only did my gran lose her mother when she was 4, but her father died in a mental hospital - her husband suffered long term illnesses and couldn't work, and finally she spent the last ten years of her life with one leg in a calliper after falling in Edinburgh and breaking her leg. I know I was quite young, but I never heard her complain.
Now its more difficult - both Joseph's marriages were in Leicester district (so not Belgrave!), but don't know which church. My Dad was brought up a Baptist, so might have been n/c. Before he married Emma, Joseph lived with his family in Thames Street, in 1881 Joseph & Emma were living at 13, Marston Street. I have not confirmed Emma prior to their marriage, as there is more than one candidate, but I have found one in St Margaret and one in All Saints, who are possibles.
The other marriage is interesting, and could have been Joseph's uncle - I only say that because his father was Charles (like the witness), and I have no info on other family members. Charles was born in Markfield c.1821, but I haven't found his birth. In 1841 he was living in Loughborough with a 75 year old Banyard Wallis of whom I know nothing.
If that gives more guidance, any more details would be welcome - I am still intrigued by Joseph's 2nd marriage. I have just reread my original post - I should have put more details in it - my excuse was thinking more about going to London today, than what I was doing!
Thanks again
Richard
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Hi Richard,
I have just spotted your posts on here and I noticed in Mikes reply that he mentions a surname Roe. I have my 2 x Great Grandfather living with a 7 yr old Henry Roe ( transcribed as Boe on the 1841 census) H107/592/10. Why he was living with another child and not his own son I have never managed to find out. In 1847 John Pole was in prison, so I don't know what happened to Henry. I will try and find some more info on Henry .
Yvonne
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Hi Yvonne
Thanks for that - not sure if there's a connection. I haven't tried to follow up on that piece of info from Mike yet, as I don't think Nathaniel is that close. Still hoping someone can find Joseph's 2nd marriage (to Sarah Ann) because I believe Free BMD is probably wrong on this one. I do have a book of photographs which I think came from my Gran, Ada Elizabeth Blakesley which is one reason I am trying to work it all out, in hopes of identifying some of them - or who is who in accompanying letters!
Richard
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Just to put this thread to bed, as it were, Yvonne kindly found me Sarah Ann's will, with probate granted jointly to my grandfather (to whom she was step mother-in-law, if such a relationship exists) and my grandmother's sister's son - thus proving I had the correct family. She also found in the 1881 census that Sarah Ann was the daughter of Nathaniel and Martha, whose marriage Mike found, and was thus a Blaksley (or Blakesley) all along - so Free BMD is correct. This must rate as a complete success in answering my question - now I can go away and work out if Joseph and Sarah Ann were related.
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There were 2 Sarah Ann Blakesleys both born 1852 so I'm unsure which one married Joseph.I have made a detailed study of the Blakesleys. Most were non-conformist.
I would be very interested in the burials of Blakesleys if there is a possibility. Thanks
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Further to 2 Sarah Anns, one was born Lutterworth 1851, the other (Blaksley) 1852 Leicester. From 1901 census she was born Leicester so that makes Sarah Ann and Joseph 1st cousins. His parents were Charles Blaksley and Ann Webster, Sarahs were Nathaniel Blaksley and Martha Coe.For some reason one branch was Blaksley the other evolved as Blakesley from 3 generations before.
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Please read Martha Roe NOT Coe.
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Thanks Geebeetas - I think we had worked out that Joseph had married his cousin after Emma died, though had not sent for a certificate to prove it. I have been lacking much info for Markfield, so could only assume Charles and Nathaniel were brothers - there is also a Henry of similar age. According to Nathaniel's marriage, his father was Joseph - there was also a George in Markfield of suitable age.
It was only when I started searching through records that the spelling differences came up - I had always known my Gran's name as Blakesley - Charles and his family seemed to add the "e" after 1851.
My only knowledge of burials is what Mike came up with in the previous post, and my Gran - Ada Elizabeth Yates (nee Blakesley) - is buried behind the Baptist Church in Woodhouse Eaves with her husband. I always assumed the Baptist bit came from her (it usually does doesn't it?).
I would be very interested in your Blakesley research, as I know nothing prior to Charles, and as I posted earlier we have this book of photographs which I think was my gran's, but can't identify who they are.
Richard
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Greetings RRYFS,
I came across an entry of yours in a random search and was much surprised. My father, Richard, was the US serviceman you spoke of that visited your parents. I met your parents when my ship was in Southhampton in 1978.
I tried to send you a personal contact, but as I quickly registered on this site this afternoon, I could not get that function to operate.
Please contact me as I have significant amount of Burchnall/Yates information to share.
Regards,
Richard
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Hi Marines7566
You must be Rich then. When my father died, I was not sure what happened to addresses, so was unable to make contact - I had an idea you were in Florida, so tried googling a couple of times, but didn't find you!
The PM function only operates when you have made 3 posts, so if you reply to this and then post once more, I can send you a message with my e-mail - we are not allowed to post e-mail addresses in threads. Since getting interested in family research, I have added quite a lot to the family tree which your father and mine produced.
Richard
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Yes, I am Richard. I was in Florida in early 1990s. Very interested in communicating with you. Might have some insight to the Coleman connection for you.