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Title: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: royam on Friday 04 March 11 07:34 GMT (UK)
Im trying to find answers to these questions My ggf married a Catherine Mary Hayes Austin in 1896. Can anyone tell me where she was born.,   Am also looking for the parents of William Austin married at St Mary RC church in Geelong in 1855.

My ggf Mark Francis Clery came from Ireland not sure when but was married in 1864 to Margaret Rankin. His Father's name was John. Im lead tio believe we are related to the Clerys of Dublin who name the store shares. Can anyone tell me the relationship between John and Michael clery.
Thanks Royam
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: cando on Friday 04 March 11 08:38 GMT (UK)
Marriage

AUSTIN  Cath Mary Hayes born Melbourne
CLEARY Chas born Melbourne South
1896  Reg#2638

Cheers
Cando


Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: XXXX on Friday 04 March 11 08:46 GMT (UK)
Mark Francis Clery died in 1881, age 43 in Sandridge, Victoria, Reg#5967, his parents were listed as John Clery and Ann McCarthy.

Margaret Clery died in 1891, age 50 in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Reg#11920, her parents were listed as Samuel Rankin and Mary O'Loughlin.
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: cando on Friday 04 March 11 08:47 GMT (UK)
Marriage
AUSTIN William
 MURPHY Anne
1855  Reg#1412

The certificate would list parents of both the bride and groom.

You can purchase an image online [$17.50] and immediately download
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Information on all certificates in Victoria
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 04 March 11 10:32 GMT (UK)
INQUEST:

CLEARY Mark Francis age 43yrs
Occupation: Labourer
Year: 1881
Place: Sandridge
Reference: 566
Cause: Suicide hanged


Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: cando on Friday 04 March 11 10:42 GMT (UK)
News snippet 1874 Mark Francis CLEARY
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4f/

News snippet 1881 Mark Francis CLEARY
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4g/

Cando


Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: royam on Saturday 05 March 11 01:32 GMT (UK)
Marriage
AUSTIN William
 MURPHY Anne
1855  Reg#1412

The certificate would list parents of both the bride and groom.

You can purchase an image online [$17.50] and immediately download
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Information on all certificates in Victoria
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: royam on Saturday 05 March 11 01:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks for answering this . I have this information but on thr marriage certificate it is extremley hard to read where William austin was born and the name if his Mother. So Im hoping someone maybe able to help me .
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: royam on Saturday 05 March 11 01:40 GMT (UK)
Re Clery Thanks for answering this I have this information but I am hoping that someone might be able to help with his father John and the connection with the Firm of Clery's of Dublin., and what was the relationship between John and Michael. Michael was the founder of Clery's.
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: judb on Saturday 05 March 11 02:44 GMT (UK)
Not much help in finding John/Michael, however some hints which may help you find the birthplace of Catherine.

Posting these for our interest as they would appear to belong to your family:

Deaths, Victoria

Mark Austin CLERY, 85
Died at Sbla, Victoria
1984 #00609
Father's Name:    Charles
Mother's Name:    Catherine

Catherine Clery, 82
Died at; St Kilda, Victoria
1955, #8514
Father's Name: Austin

This lady's death date gives an approximate birth date of 1873 which may help find her birth.

There are also some index entries for births of children of  Charles and Catherine which should give her birthplace.

Did the Michael CLERY that you are looking for ever come to Australia?

Judith
Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: cando on Sunday 06 March 11 06:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks for answering this . I have this information but on thr marriage certificate it is extremley hard to read where William austin was born and the name if his Mother. So Im hoping someone maybe able to help me .

Have you thought of seeking help with the parts of the cert that are difficult to read?  You may like to post them here.  Please only post sections of the cert as the full cert is not permitted.

I did look previously but re-checked...there is no birth for a Catherine AUSTIN in Victoria c1873

William AUSTIN and Ann MURPHY had nine children whose births were registered between 1855 and 1871.  Seven of these children died between 1856 and 1876.  Two of the registrations  has William noted as William Axe AUSTIN. 

Someone looking for William AUSTIN of Liverpool in 1854
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c57/

There is a file on PROV Wills index for William AUSTIN, Contractor of Nott Street, Port Melbourne, who died in 1898 leaving his assets to his wife Ann.
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

Death
AUSTIN William
Father Austin William  Mother Mary NOLAN
61 years at Port Melbourne  1898  Reg#4265

His death certificate should list all the children of the marriage with Ann MURPHY ie if it is the correct Wm AUSTIN :)

Cheers  :)
Cando

Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: cando on Sunday 06 March 11 06:50 GMT (UK)
Mark Austin CLERY was cremated at Springvale and his ashes scattered.
http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php

Cando


Title: Re: Clery/Austin can anyone help
Post by: royam on Monday 07 March 11 04:39 GMT (UK)
Not much help in finding John/Michael, however some hints which may help you find the birthplace of Catherine.

Posting these for our interest as they would appear to belong to your family:

Deaths, Victoria

Mark Austin CLERY, 85
Died at Sbla, Victoria
1984 #00609
Father's Name:    Charles
Mother's Name:    Catherine

Catherine Clery, 82
Died at; St Kilda, Victoria
1955, #8514
Father's Name: Austin

This lady's death date gives an approximate birth date of 1873 which may help find her birth.

There are also some index entries for births of children of  Charles and Catherine which should give her birthplace.

Did the Michael CLERY that you are looking for ever come to Australia?

Judith

Title: Re: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: royam on Monday 07 March 11 04:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the help on both william austin and John . Re John Not sure if he came to Australia will try and do some research.
Title: Re: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: Sani on Saturday 26 March 11 02:26 GMT (UK)
In my husbands family tree I have one Joseph John Burnett Clery, son of Thomas Clery and Mona Burns  b circa 1818 in Belfast. He marr Margaret Ann Black b circa 1829. They marr in Geelong June 1844 both are buried in Eastern cemetery Geelong. They had 11 children Forster b Aug 1854 and Margaret Jane b  July 1856 both died March 1861 and are buried there too.  Two more of their children are buried in Geelong. The latest one I have is a female b Aug 1948 was a teacher living in Melbourne in the 1990's
                   Val
Title: Re: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: setterrex on Tuesday 12 April 11 23:49 BST (UK)
Hi Royam,
Catherine Mary Hayes Austin was my grandmother.
I have a lot of the family history.
Would like to correspond with you.
regards,
Kate
Title: Re: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: royam on Friday 15 April 11 10:40 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information my GF is Mark . William Austin and Ann Murphy were married at ST Mary Catholic  church Geelong 1855. They had nine children born between 1855 and 1871. The second child of Catherine and Charles died in NSW., she was 6mth old. I read today on someone else post that Catherine was adopted but not sure how to find this site. Which of Catherine Children is your line.
Vicki
Title: Re: CLERY/AUSTIN can anyone help
Post by: DamianSmith on Wednesday 31 December 14 00:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have some info regarding the ancestors of Mark Francis Clery, who committed suicide in Sandridge, his connection to Clery's of Dublin and beyond. He is in my family's maternal line. Let me know where I can be in touch as email would be better for me.

Regards,

Damian