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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: daveinspain on Thursday 03 March 11 08:32 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help with the street name below, please?
It's taken from the 1891 Census and Thomas Beech lived at No.4. Clearly, it is in the Mount Strret area as previous street mentioned is the now demolished Eagle Street. The address doesn't look, to me, like Mount Street and hasn't been shortened (as in Eagle St.) but I can't find any reference to anything else that would fit.
By 1901 Thomas Beech was living in Mount Street, but at No.5
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FindMyPast has this address transcribed as Mount Pleasant, Wrexham Regis, Wrexham
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That's how I originally read it but I can't find any other reference to a Mount Pleasant in Wrexham.
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Mount Pleasant may have been the name for the house. I have heard of street names in Lancashire called Mount Pleasant. Could the name have originated from the name of a place in a battle, or the name of a place in the Holy Land?
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The best bet would be to look at a Trade, or Commercial Direcdtory for Wrexham at this time. That would give you an idea of what exactly Mount Pleasant was and where it was situated in relation to the town. An old map of Wrexham would also help in this quest.
Jo
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Hi
I came across this link to an old map of Wrexham some time ago and hope it may be useful to you. :)
http://www.wrecsam.gov.uk/assets/pdfs/museum/footprints/wrexhamap.pdf (http://www.wrecsam.gov.uk/assets/pdfs/museum/footprints/wrexhamap.pdf)
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Thanks, Scouseboy and Jo I'll keep looking for references to Mount Pleasant but am not totally convinced that the word I'm trying to read is 'Pleasant'.
Thanks maidmarion for the link to this map, it's the best I have seen of old Wrexham. Mount Street and The Mount appear but nothing for either Eagle Street or Mount Pleasant.
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Hi Dave in Spain and if you are there you lucky so and so, ok here goes we're Wrexham born and bred and we did a bit of detective work for you. We're pretty convinced the place your after is Mount Pleasant and it's on what is now Caia Road, after looking at some old maps and following the original route taken by the enumeratuion census we think it is actually the row of terraced houses ( built out of the world famous Ruabon red housebrick ), which incidentally are still there, next to Caia house ( was a pub for a long time and is now a vetenary surgeons ), we think they were called Mount Pleasant as when they were built the road was not called Caia road. Now Haverlock Square and the Dog Kennels were demolished when the railway line was built in the 1890's and the tanneries sprung up in that area, in 1881 the houses called Mount Pleasant were not built but by 1899 they were. Now this may be a red herring but Mount Street in the 1890's was supposedly a picturesque street but the courts off it were classed as slums and they are listed in the enumeration route so when they built the row of terraces on Caia Road perhaps the use of " Mount Pleasant " was a way of detracting the image of the slum area. There is a public house in the enumeration route called the Anchor Inn and this was on the corner of Eagle Street and Salop Road, this was demolished in the late 60's early 70's, the road directly opposite this pub is what's now known as Caia Road. We can't understand why the census returns miss out house number five though. Oh where Eagle Street used to be is now roughly where the ring road around the new precinct is. We'll drive past the terraced houses tomorrow and take another look at them to see if they are called Mount Pleasant now, the area now looks nothing like the old maps at all, that's progress we suppose.
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Spain not so great at the moment, it was only 9c yesterday, after we had eaten breakfast outside a cafe last Saturday - thought winter was finished!
As a child I lived on Bennions Road, my grandfather & mother having moved there when the houses were built in 1937. I knew the area well and remember Eagle Street and the Anchor pub - it was my 'local' until it was pulled down. The map referred to by mainmarion is good for showing the area as it was long before 1891.
Naming those houses Mount Pleasant would make sense, they had a nice rear view over Eagles Meadow.
I've just had a look at Google Maps but at street camera level the map gets confused between Caia Road and the ring road around the shopping centre. You can see the fronts of the houses next to Colour Supplies and near what was the Caia House, but not those in the middle of the terrace.
Thanks for all your help, and willingness to go out of your way to investigate for me. I won't be over to Wrexham to look for things myself until November this year - I still have one aunt and some cousins in the town.
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If you look at the enumeraters description for dist 34 it says ` left side of Salop Road road to end of Roderick Street ? and Wrexham Fechan including the Caia , Mount Pleasant, Dog kennel`
There was a large house called `The Mount` but it was knocked down for the building of the Ellesmere Railway, it overlooked Mount Street,
NOW - if you can remember the Anchor, then across the road was the old railway embankment and the remains of the stone walls. I guess it was around this area.
I remember the Anchor, was it Alan who had it , and the lads from the gas and leather works who went there , when it shut we all moved to the Horsehoe in Bank St. happy days ;D ;D
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Thanks wilcoxon, I think that confirms what I have been looking for. I do remember the bridge over Salop Road, and the trains running over it.
Yes, it was Alan Jones, landlord of the Anchor. My memories of the place was during the 3 day week and power cuts of the 70s. My home in Bennions Road and the Anchor were on different circuits so if the power was off at home it was on in the Anchor.
As you say, happy days.
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If you look at the enumeraters description for dist 34 it says ` left side of Salop Road road to end of Roderick Street ? and Wrexham Fechan including the Caia , Mount Pleasant, Dog kennel`
There was a large house called `The Mount` but it was knocked down for the building of the Ellesmere Railway, it overlooked Mount Street,
NOW - if you can remember the Anchor, then across the road was the old railway embankment and the remains of the stone walls. I guess it was around this area.
I remember the Anchor, was it Alan who had it , and the lads from the gas and leather works who went there , when it shut we all moved to the Horsehoe in Bank St. happy days ;D ;D
Wilcoxon your bang on with your co-ordinates, been thinking about it all day and convinced myself it wasn't were we originally thought it would be but we managed to locate it on another map from 1874/81 and it was a row of roughly fifteen houses on what would now be the roundabout by Colour Supplies and Caia Road. As you stand on the roundabout and look up Caia Road it would have been on the right hand side, in 1899 the railway has gone straight through it, can't say I remember the old walls you are on about as I think they were demolished before my time.Your right about the old Mount building I bet it was a good piece of local history, sadly gone forever.
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Thanks to everyone, I think that just about wraps up this enquiry.