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Title: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: jewelie on Monday 28 February 11 10:11 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find details of Joseph Jones, tinsmith of Paterson, NSW who married Eliza (supposedly Berry) and had a daughter Phoebe in 1851. I can find record of Joseph Jones, convict, who married Eliza Coleman in 1849, but cannot find whether this is the same person. Any help greatly appreciated!
jewelie
Title: Re: Joseph Jones and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: majm on Monday 28 February 11 10:34 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Do you have a transcript for that 1849 marriage ... where was the service conducted? Does it give any information about his age, parents etc...

Do you have a transcript of your Joseph Jones death certificate .... does it say how long in the colonies, his age, where born, when/where married, number of children and names of those living etc...

Have you looked through trove for information about the tinsmith at Paterson ... sometimes there's very good clues
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Re the chap who married Eliza Coleman in 1849 ... you say he was a convict .... what record does that come from?  Does it show any other info re his conviction/sentence/Ticket of Leave/Certificate of Freedom etc...

Fingers crossed,

Cheers,  JM


Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: majm on Monday 28 February 11 10:43 GMT (UK)
Re that 1849 marriage .... was it at Houghton, ... this would be near Paterson.

Re Joseph Jones ... NSW Electoral Roll 1870 has a Joseph Jones, as a leaseholder at Coulston, definitely Paterson country, alas, no occupation given on those early rolls   :(

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 28 February 11 12:31 GMT (UK)
Convicts permission to marry:

JONES Joseph age 34yrs - Strathfieldsay (2); Life; CP #1910 18/11/1847
married
COLEMAN Eliza age 21yrs - Came Free; Free Person
Year: 1849
Clergy: Adams
District: Paterson
Parish: Houghton, Church of England
Ref Number: V18513022 37A 
Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 28 February 11 12:35 GMT (UK)
JONES Joseph married COLEMAN Elizabeth 1849         
Ref Number: V1849541 34C   
Parish: Houghton, Church of England
Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 28 February 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
JONES Phoebe - christening 1851
Father: Joseph
Mother: Eliza
Ref Number: V18513022 37A   
Parish: Houghton, Church of England
Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: jewelie on Monday 28 February 11 21:34 GMT (UK)
Thankyou  majm and Merlin - I 'think' this is my Joseph and Eliza Jones, but the family always said Joseph's wife was Eliza Berry (and didn't mention convict status!!!!)....that's why I am not sure.
I can't find anything on Trove about them and cannot find immigration records for Eliza Coleman or Berry.
I do have some details of the Joseph Jones who came on Strathfieldsaye (from Ancestry)
I'm still searching!
Cheers, Julie
Title: Re: Joseph JONES and Eliza, Paterson NSW 1851
Post by: majm on Monday 28 February 11 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

At the ONLINE index of the NSW State Records Office, there's a Joseph Jones who was a convict, ex the Strathfieldsay arriving 1836.  His Ticket of Leave was issued in 1844 (44/1958) in the Paterson District.  He had been tried at the Derby Quarter Sessions.

That same chap received his Colonial Pardon on  1 Feb 1849 (CP 49/447)

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

I think there's a very strong possibility that would be the right Mr Jones who was Phoebe's dad, to match up with Merlin's posts  ;D

Cheers,  JM