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Title: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: ozcornman on Monday 28 February 11 06:37 GMT (UK)

I am searching for my GG Grandfather Robert BLACK who arrived in Moreton Bay in Queensland AUST, aboard ship ‘Alfred’ in 1858. He married Elizabeth SYME/SIME/SIM in Brisbane on
9/7/1859.  She was born on 30/3/1942 (as SYME) at Aberdour Scotland and arrived in Moreton Bay with her family aboard ship ‘Irene’ in 1858. They had six children viz.,

Elizabeth b. 17/10/1860 Brisbane QLD d. 6/1/1862 Brisbane
James b. 20/8/1862 Brisbane d. 18/8/1944 Cairns QLD
Janet b. 12/10/1864 marr.?? d.??
Alexander b. 8/10/1866 Dundathu QLD d. 6/4/1916 Cairns (my Great Grandfather)
Robert b. 17/2/1871 d. 7/11/1919 Charters Towers QLD
William George b. 14/12/1876 marr. ?? d.??

Elizabeth passed away on 8/1/1877 at Dundathu near Maryborough QLD, after the birth of William George. Robert presumably raised his children with the assistance of his late wife’s family who were sawmillers. He worked with Elizabeth’s uncle William SYME/SIME/SIM and his partner William PETTIGREW at their Dundathu sawmill, which had a checkered existence surviving fires and floods, eventually succumbing in 1893 during the great flood. William SIM died in Robert BLACK’s arms after a logging accident  at Tin Can Bay QLD in 1873 and Robert built a 35-foot steamboat from hoop pine, which was plentiful, and named it ‘Elizabeth’ in 1879.

After that, I have found no evidence of Robert or his children Janet and William George.

I’d love to hear from any descendants of any of the above family or any one who can help knock down the wall.
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 28 February 11 11:48 GMT (UK)
DEATH:

BLACK Robert d. 26/02/1898 C3190
Father: Adam Black   
Mother: Janet Denham

Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 28 February 11 11:56 GMT (UK)
BURIALS:

BLACK Robert age 58yrs
Maryborough Cemetery
Burial No: 4917
Burial Date: 28/02/1898
Occupation: Carpenter
Birth Place: Scotland
Place of Death: Maryborough Hospital
Cause of Death: OBSTRUCTION OF BOWELS
Minister: REV J I KNIPE
Undertaker: KIRK & WINSTON
Portion: D
Grave Number: 634


BLACK Elizabeth age 34yrs
Maryborough Cemetery
Burial No: 725
Burial Date: 08/01/1877
Occupation: Wife of Robert BLACK, Timbergetter
Birth Place: Scotland
Place of Death: DUNDATHU
Cause of Death: MILK FEVER & PUERPURA
Minister: REV J I KNIPE
Undertaker: KIRK & WINSTON
Portion: D
Grave Number: 106
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 02 March 11 14:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Couple of bits of info for James Black at Cairns.

Queensland Timber Licenses 1860-1901.
James Black
District: Cairns
License to cut and split slabs, &c.
Granted: 31st July 1886.
Currency: 1 Pounds 10 Shillings Pence


Queensland Horse and Cattle Brands Index 1872-1899
James Black
Run or Farm: Red Hill, Mulgrave road
Nearest Post Town: Cairns
Brand: JB2
Certificate Number: C35329
Date: 28 August 1894

Regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: ozcornman on Wednesday 02 March 11 21:42 GMT (UK)
It looks like him  and feels like him,so I'll order a copy of his Death Registration to help with finding his birth details in Scotland.

Thank you Merlin and Aussie1947 for your information.

Ciao

ozcornman
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: nqchook on Monday 13 June 11 02:40 BST (UK)
Alexander Black is my Great Grandfather and Robert is my Great-Great Grandfather.  Robert did arrive in Moretn Bay 1858 aboard the Alfred all details as read are pretty correct. His fathers name was James and his mothers was i believe jane or june.  Details of his location in Australia are very hard to trace. The ship sailed from Liverpool in June 1858. I would be interested to see what info you have collected on Alexander and families as both my cousin and i are doing family research on Robert.

Regards
nqchook
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: Aussie1947 on Monday 13 June 11 02:54 BST (UK)
Hi, nqchook.

I'm in Cairns about 2km from the pioneer cemetery, if you need a photo of Alexander's burial plot/headstone for your family history let me know.

Regards
Gerry
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: nqchook on Tuesday 14 June 11 00:26 BST (UK)
Gerry

Wuld appreciate a photo greatly.

Thnaks
nqchook
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: Aussie1947 on Tuesday 14 June 11 12:08 BST (UK)
I went to the Cairns Pioneer Cemetery today but unfortunately there was no burial position found for Alexander Black.  He appears on the list of burials for the cemetery as grave No 2300 but 2300 wasn't on the map for the cemetery indicating confirmed burial names.  There were many many names with grave numbers but not marked on the site map.

I'll contact the Cairns Council tomorrow and see what more I can find out.

Regards
Gerry       
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: ozcornman on Wednesday 15 June 11 04:50 BST (UK)
Hi nqchook

This is Cousin Robert. I am watching this site on a computer in my local library,and I presume it is me you refer to in your post.

I have tried to email you ,but the address I have is either incorrect or an old one. I will ring you with my friend's address tonight.....I would like you to send me the data we talked about the other day,and the memory stick you have.

Thanks Aussie1947 for your indulgence.
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: nqchook on Wednesday 22 June 11 09:06 BST (UK)
Cousin try robert black death reg no.C3194/1910 father (James not shown on data record nor mothers name shwn), worth a try


nqchook
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: pebbles1 on Saturday 16 November 13 08:44 GMT (UK)
 :) Hi

Robert Black is my mother side of the family happy to share info with you
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: pebbles1 on Monday 18 November 13 01:02 GMT (UK)
Hi

Robert Black and Elizabeth Sim are my mother side of family  :)
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: nqchook on Wednesday 27 November 13 05:56 GMT (UK)
Pebbles1
Thanks for that contact Robert Black was my Great-Great Grandfather what is his relationship to you.
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 28 November 13 19:32 GMT (UK)
Just adding link to new post to keep thread together www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=669480.0

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: pebbles1 on Friday 29 November 13 22:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Nqchook

Robert Black is my Great Great Grandfather

Thank you
Pebbles1 :)
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: nqchook on Thursday 03 July 14 10:37 BST (UK)
Pebbles1

Hi sorry have been busy, re Robert Black, he moved to Charters Towers with his family and was there for some time, my Great Grandfather Alexander moved to Cairns early 1900as my Grandfather was born in Cairns 1905 (James).  Some believe that Robert died in 1899 @ Charters Towers and some think that he is buried in Dunolly Victoria (1901)
Cheers NQCHOOK
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 03 July 14 11:18 BST (UK)

The Northern Miner 19 Jun 1899
BLACK—On June 16th, 1899, at Bay Street, Botany, N.S.W., Robert Black, senior, late of Charters Towers, aged 63 years. Deeply regretted.

The Northern Miner 8 Nov 1919
The Relatives and Friends of MRS, ROBERT BLACK and son are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of her late beloved HUSBAND and his late beloved father. The Cortege will move from her residence Philipson Road (off Mount Leyshon Road), at 2.30 pm. TO-DAY (Saturday), 8  November, 1919.

BDM NSW death
7780/1899  BLACK  Robert      age 65yrs      died Botany                   Waterloo
Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 03 July 14 13:18 BST (UK)
Hi,

1919 Commonwealth Electoral Roll
Division of Kennedy, Subdiviaion of Charters Towers.
Black Robert, Phillipson Rd, miner.
Black Bertha, Phillipson Rd, home duties.

Gerry

Title: Re: Robert BLACK b. C1837 Scotland – Missing from Queensland
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 03 July 14 15:08 BST (UK)
Marriage

Yr 1900 reg C1361 Robert BLACK to Bertha Victoria BROWN   

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