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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: akcant on Saturday 26 February 11 20:35 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to locate my 2 x great grandfather, Robert Barr, b. 1843?? will some kind person look at the 1871 census for South Shields, Durham.
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Was he born in South Shields?
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I think he was born in Scotland but haven't been able to find anything on ScotlandsPeople to date, his son, James Barr, moved to Durham so I just wondered if Robert moved the whole family to Durham first.
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Hi,
When & where was James born? It is always a great help if you can put down all the info you may have to make things a little easier when searching.
Sharon
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Thanks Sharon.
James Barr b. 1867?? on 1911 Census born - nr. Ayr, Scotland. When he got married in 1904 he was living in Gateshead on Tyne, Durham.
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So James Barr was born 1867 in Ayrshire Scotland and his father was Robert.
Although James married in Durham - it was 38yrs later so it's more likely that the family were in Scotland in 1871
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Hi not certain if this helps you, but their is this Robert Barr in 1871:-
Robert Barr 28 occ Rivetter in Ship Yard b Scotland
He is a Boarder at Ellison Street, Jarrow, South Shields
Census Ref RG10/5044/40/15
Keyboard86
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I found an 1881 Census with a James Barr living in Lancashire as a grandson to Susan Henney but cannot be sure if this is him. I've not been able to find James Barr in ScotlandsPeople in 1891 or 1901.
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There are 2 James Barr marriages in Gateshead in 1904 - did your James marry Grace Oliver
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Hi not certain if this helps you, but their is this Robert Barr in 1871:-
Robert Barr 28 occ Rivetter in Ship Yard b Scotland
He is a Boarder at Ellison Street, Jarrow, South Shields
Census Ref RG10/5044/40/15
That Robert was unmarried - son James was born c 1867
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There is this entry for Dalry Ayrshire but birthyear a bit out - all b Dalry
Robert Barr 31 blacksmith
Mary 30
James 1
Dalry ED 1 Page 18 Line 22
What was Roberts occupation on the 1904 marriage cert
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Robert Barr was a Colliery Manager
James Barr married Grace Oliver in 1904
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From the IGI
JAMES BARR Birth: 20 MAR 1869 Kilmarnock, Ayr
Father: ROBERT BARR Mother: MARY DONALD
1871 shows father Robert as a farmer of 110 acres
JAMES BARR Birth: 04 JUL 1869 Dalry, Ayr
Father: ROBERT BARR Mother: MARY NELSON
As shown in my previous reply
They are the only 2 entries on the 1871 census who were born in Ayr
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There is no 1871 English entry for him - the 1881 entry you found can be found on the IGI - parents James Barr & Helen Henney
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For info only
There is a James Barr b Kilwinning Ayr stepson of Peter McPherson on the 1881 census - b Kilwinning Ayr 1866 - not him. Traced family back and father was John
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I found an 1881 Census with a James Barr living in Lancashire as a grandson to Susan Henney but cannot be sure if this is him. I've not been able to find James Barr in ScotlandsPeople in 1891 or 1901.
Do you think this fits with the Henney family you've found?
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I didn't find a Henney family - you did. My reply was to rule him out
the 1881 entry you found can be found on the IGI - parents James Barr & Helen Henney
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What was Jame's occupation when he married Grace?
Have found a few census results for Scotland but can not tie them in exactly, birth dates differ a little.
Sharon
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CaroleW
Yes I realised last night when I went to bed that the Henney family did not fit. ??? Stumped again.
Akcant
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Sharon
When James married Grace he was a Millwright - not sure he had been that all his working life.
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I can not seem to spot either James or Grace in the 1901 census. Have you found them? I can only see Grace in 1881.
Sharon
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I'm sorry, yes I have found Grace on a 1901 Census, it appears she is still living with her parents at the age of 23. So James Barr is on his own somewhere.
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This may be James Barr :-
I've just found a 1881 Census in ScotlandsPeople for James Barr (14) b. 1867 in Kilwinning, Ayr with brother, Robert Barr (24?), born in Ireland (both coal miners) and sister Mary Barr (12) b. 1869 in Kilwinning, Ayr. Their mother is Elizabeth McPhearson (42) b.1839? Ireland. She's remarried to Peter McPhearson (44)?, Argyle also a coal miner. But I cannot find them on anymore Census' ???