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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lincolnshire => England => Lincolnshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Sonia Gardener on Saturday 26 February 11 16:24 GMT (UK)
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I would appreciate a lookup for brothers Thomas Baxter bn 1842 in Barking Essex, Arthur Baxter bn 1854 Barking & Alfred bn 1845 Barking. I am hoping they are in Clee. Parents are Charles & rosetta. Many thanks
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Baxter, Charles, (60)
Rosetta, (59)
sons Charles (25) and Alfred (17) (both shown as married on transcript but Unmarried on original image)
and Alice Ward (8) Grand Daughter
living at 22 Grant Street Cree.
Occupations look like:
Charles, Sailmaker
Alfred Ships Carpenter
Arthur Sailmaker
RG10;3415:51:14
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many thanks Percy - they're certainly my lot. I take it there was no sign of Thomas (Charles) Baxter?
Sonia
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Will these be your Baxter's?
Rosetta Baxter age 76 Burial 7th March 1888 in Cleethorpes Cemetery Lincs.
Arthur James Baxter age 68 Burial 16th June 1921 in Cleethorpes Cemetery
Thomas Charles Baxter age 67 Burial 1st January 1919 Cleethorpes Cemetery
Alfred Simco Baxter age 51 Burial 6th May 1896 Cleethorpes Cemetery.
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Baxter, Thomas Head age 28 Sailmaker employing 2 lads.
Baxter, Susanna Wife age 30 (Deaf)
Both born Barking Essex
Living at 6 Humber Street CLEE (sic) Lincolnshire
RG10 ; piece 3415; folio 31; page 13
Alan NZ
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Marriage: March Quarter 1868 Caistor (lincolnshire)7a 909
Thomas Charles Baxter
Susannah Eliza Bulpit
1861 census RG09: piece 2388: folio 82: page 22
Victoria Street North Great Grimsby
Father John B Smack owner born London Middlesex 1814
Wife Susannah E born Barking Essex
5 siblings aged from 18-1 1 male 4 female all born Barking Essex
Alan NZ
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Re; the Charles (Simco) Baxter in the burials that I found. I think it could have been mistranscribed ...as I have found this marriage that I think is him.
Old Clee Parish Church Grimsby 06/02/1873
BAXTER ALFRED SIMES age 28 a shipwright address New Clee
Father... CHARLES a sail maker
BAKER MARY ANN age 21 address New Clee
Father... JAMES a pork butcher
Wits; WILLIAM DAVEY MARY EMMA BAKER
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Another marriage....
St. Peter Parish Church Cleethorpes 19/09/1877
BAXTER Arthur James age 25 a Bachelor a Sailmaker.. address .New Clee
Father.. Charles a Sailmaker
TROFER Mary Jane age 18 a Spinster address New Clee Adopted Child of Jacob a Smack Owner
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Many thanks everyone for your contributions - heads in a whirl at the moment & need to look at all of this to see where it leaves & leads me. Thank you so much
best wishes
Sonia
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Hello
I wonder if your Thomas & Arthur Baxter were the same as the 2 brothers who indentured my g grandfather Walter Haines on 22/5/1883 (aged 13½) for 6½ years. I believe they were Trawler Masters of Grimsby. Walter lodged with Arthur at 2 St Georges Terrace, Grimsby at the time – he had come from a broken home and stated that he had no relatives. Unfortunately the dates are between Census, so maybe no record of him exists for 1891
Walter was fortunate in that his employers were good men (apparently not always the case for young lads in the fishing industry at this time). He later became a Master Mariner and skippered the Grimsby steam trawler Horatia.
Simon
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Hello Simon
I've had a good check back on all my info but cannot pinpoint anything of use to you.
None of my Baxters are recorded at the address you have given on census either side of Walter Haines 1883 indenture but they all do seem to have been involved in the shipping industry.
Were you asking the question because you have not been able to establish Walter's parentage?
Sonia
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Hello Sonia
Thanks for your reply. I had hoped that possibly we had the same Arthur Baxter and that I could find out a little more about Walter’s early life in Grimsby…….hence my interest in your topic. It is interesting to note that there were at least 2 sets of Baxter brothers, Arthur & Thomas, living in Grimsby at this time and both involved in the boat/fishing industry?
The info about the indenture etc (I prefer the word apprentice) was given to me by his grandson Michael Haines who found this in the archives in Grimsby. We have been unable to find an 1881 or 1891 Census record for Walter, though I assume he was living in Grimsby in the ‘90’s after he had completed his indenture/apprenticeship (he was married in New Clee in 1899) I think he was at Enfield Industrial School in 1881 and was presumably sent to Grimsby to learn a trade. I also believe his parents were separated and his mother was living with another man according to the 1881 C.
I would like to try and trace him in 1881 and 1891. I think he was a lodger in London (he was a deep sea fisherman) in the 1901 C, but cannot find that either
Simon
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Hello Simon....perhaps Walter was at sea in 1901 census.
His wife Eliza and daughter Dorothy were living at the same address in1901 as when they married in 1899.
Barleymow
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Walter is at home with his family in 1911 he says he is from Surrey
Barleymow
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Hello Barleymow
Thanks for the reply
I did find, some time ago, a 1901 C record of him lodging with a family in London with his occupation as above described, but I can't seem to relocate it...........but this is the ref: (RG13/1251 folio158 p17). I have also located it on the 1901 site but not another ancestor site
In 1901 there was a lockout for the Grimsby fishing fleet and no trawler could put to sea for a few months. It is possibl that he went to London to find work during this time. His wife and daughter, meanwhile, were living with her parents in Grimsby. It is also interesting to note that Dorothy was born in Edmonton at this time, rather than in Grimsby. Perhaps he was working in London during 1900-1901?
Simon
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He's under Walker Haines bn Sutton Surrey living Tottenham
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Ahh yes,I have found it...many thanks Sonia.
Did you find your Thomas Charles Baxter by the way?
Barleymow
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yes - thank you Barleymow - the pieces fitted together and led me back to William Baxter & Sarah Butler marriage 1802 Bethnal Green. I'd quite forgotten about them so I'm now spurred on to take a re-look!!
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Hello
Thanks all for your assistance
sft456
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There was an Arthur BAXTER a Fish Merchant on Grimsby Docks in the 1930's .
I am told he lost the business in a card game to my Gt Grandfather Alf Atkinson
Alf definitely owned and ran Arthur Baxter Fish Merchants
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Did he have a brother called THomas and did Arthur live at 2 St Georges Terrace, Grimsby in the 1880's and 1890's?
SFt456
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Hi Sonia,
I'm a member of the Baxter Clan, (Barking end), Charles Thomas Baxter was my 3xgt Grandfather, my Nan being a Baxter/Ward from Barking. I'm really interested in fishing industry/sailmaking etc and would be happy to share info I have with regards to the family
Kind regards Kim