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I am wanting to find out more information with reference to the Smaje family in Liverpool during later part 1800 in to 1900`s.
The family owned a number of shops in the Liverpool area mainly Cordial manufactures.
Any help or information would be appreciated.
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Gore's Directory of Liverpool and Birkenhead 1900 has the following entry:-
David N Smaje & Co, Cordial Manufacturer, 115 Duke Street West
Luzzu
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In 1861 living in 12 Sussex Street, Toxteth Park:-
David Smaje 55 head mar temperance cordial maker born Holland
Rosetta Smaje 54 wife mar born Holland
Eleazar Smaje 19 son born Holland
Catherine Smaje 17 dau born Holland
Barnett Smaje 13 son born London
Samuel Kleirs 53 visitor born Holland
RG9/2700/39 p4
Luzzu
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1881 directory
Smaje Bernard David
Cordial maker
115 Duke street.
Smaje Thomas Jnn
Boot & shoe maker
68 Scotland road.
Migky ;)
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There seems to be a Herman David Smaje, cordial manufacturer, (born ca1839) in 1871 and in 1881 in London (St George in the East) - may be son of the one who was in Sussex Street, Toxteth Park in 1861 ???.
Luzzu
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Bit later but three who died in the great war, one born liverpool.
Click for SMAJE deaths in the great war (http://www.cwgc.org/search/SearchResults.aspx?surname=smaje&initials=&war=0&yearfrom=1900&yearto=2000&force=&nationality=&send.x=45&send.y=10)
Migky ;)
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Louis Henry SMAJE b Liverpool, Lancs. Enlisted at St. Helens
Died 16 August 1917
Regiment, 24445 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 8th Battalion
Formed at Omagh Oct. 1914-K2-49th Bde. 16th Div. at Tipperary. Subsequent record same as 7th Battalion.
FORMERLY 5417, ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY.
Migky ;)
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1901 Census at 26, Corlett Street, West Derby
SMAJE, Joseph Head Married 63 Hawker (Greengrocer *)Paddington London
GODYEAR, Henry Step Son Single 17 Stableman Liverpool
GODYEAR, Isaac Step Son 12 Liverpool
SMAJE, Joseph Son 10 Liverpool
SMAJE, William Son 8 Liverpool
SMAJE, Rosetta Daughter 5 Liverpool
RG13/3497/37 p 25
Migky ;)
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Still Smaje family here is Speke and Garston in Liverpool....in fact one lady writes most weeks in the Liverpool Echo in the letters in the sports pages after the weekend games...she is a fanatical Everton fan...if you go online , you will see her letters in the Liverpool Echo...and the crazy thing is her dad is a mad Rugby fan and until recently played for South Liverpool RU
allan :)
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Thank you for the quick replies,
Since there are people in the knowledge my grandfather J.W. Smaje received many awards during his time for help in the community in Liverpool.
The Citizen of the Year award i believe it was called, he was awarded this on several occasions but where can i get the info on when and how many times?
Yet again thank you for your input.
As for the mad on rugby guy....he is my uncle!...i think...
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I would ask the mad rugby guy to look in the news paper archives for you and also in any news papers of the dates you are talking about.
Migky ;)
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Louis Henry SMAJE
Birthplace: Liverpool, Lancs
Enlisted: St. Helens
Date died: 16 August 1917
Son of David Smaje who was born 1863 Liverpool but living in St Helens in 1901
I am currently trying to link that David to the David Smaje b Holland
If there is a link - I know of some relatives.
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Birthyear is widely different but I think he was the son of Joseph Smaje shown above on the 1901 census
1861 - b 1860
1881 - b 1856
1891 - b 1852
1901 b 1863
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1861 census Upper Essex Street Toxteth Park
Joseph Smaje 24 cordial maker bn Holland
Eliza 25 bn Ireland
Thomas son 4 bn Stockport
David son 5 months bn Liverpool
Possible marriage Joseph to Elizabeth Clarke 1856 shown on lancsbmd
Joseph looks of age to be the son of David and Rosetta
Gibel
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I'm wondering about this family in 1851 they are indexed as Sanaje but they have the same names in the family including Barnett
HO 107 1545 486 9 Whitechapel
David N Sanaje 45 commission agent in (can't read)
Rosa wife 44
Sarah 21
Jane 17
Julia 17
Joseph 14
herman 15
Eleanor
Catherine 7
Barnett 3 he was born Spitalfields everyone else Holland
David Nathan Smaje is in the probate index for 1879 Barnett his executor (I latered this this afternoon realised I had spelt it wrong)
Rosa and the children arrived 6 Sept 1844 at Sunderland from Amsterdam on the ship henrietta. They are on the alien arrivals and have the Dutch spelling of their name.
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In 1861 living in 12 Sussex Street, Toxteth Park:-
David Smaje 55 head mar temperance cordial maker born Holland
Rosetta Smaje 54 wife mar born Holland
Eleazar Smaje 19 son born Holland
Catherine Smaje 17 dau born Holland
Barnett Smaje 13 son born London
Samuel Kleirs 53 visitor born Holland
RG9/2700/39 p4
Luzzu
The family Gibel posted who are Whitechapel in 1851 look like the same family (minus the older children) who are in Sussex Street, Toxteth Park in 1861.
Luzzu
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Hi
My great grandmothers sister called Mary Mangan born 1863 in Liverpool, married David Smaje. On the 1881 census he is down as living with her and his in laws in Mill Street Liverpool 8. His father was Joseph Smaje and believe his family came from Holland and was cordial makers. His father arrived in Sunderland in 1844. There is a fast tree on An......, including mine, with a photo of him.
Best wishes
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Hi again
Also the David Smaje and Mary Smaje with the following children:- Thomas, Louis Henry (died in the war), Arthur and Herbert, Living in 32 Scotch Barn Lane, Whiston, Prescot, is my great aunt and and 2nd cousins.
Regards
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David and Rosetta Smaje were my 4 x great grandparents. They both originated from Amsterdam and came to the UK in 1844. They first settled in London's East End before moving to the Wirral. Three of their children (Joseph, Catherine and Barnett) moved to the North West with them. At least two of their children (Henry and Julia) remained in the East End. Another son, Louis, settled in Hull. I am a descendant of their daughter, Julia. She married a gentile and so was disowned by her Jewish family.
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Go to Facebook
garston merseyside past and present
loads of posts on there by F****** Smaje
you can make contact with him on there if you wish
allan :)
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All the smajes are related
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Hi on ebay there is a watch made by one if your relatives an antique solid silver gents fusee Louis Smaje Liverpool pocket watch. Case in good condition for it's age, but back cover deatatched (close and keeps) No crystal. Hallmarked: Chester 1860. Dial looks not original. Missing parts. No chain.type Louis Smaje and it will come up
Cheers Robert
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I am curious about something as this is my family history. I happened to hear something on the BBC about the history of gin and that gin was sometimes referred to as 'cordials'. I was wondering whether the cordial makers often referred to might be gin as opposed to the fruit we associate cordial as meaning nowadays.
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Cordial Manufacturers were soft drinks AND Fruit flavoured Alchohol - non Alchoholic Cordial Manufacturers usually advertised as "Temperance Cordial Manufacturers" .....and a warm welcome to Rootschat :)
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Thanks for the info and the greeting.
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Thanks for the info and the greeting.
are you Elliot by any chance ?
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Yes I am
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Yes I am
Small world isn't it ?
I posted on your Speke FB Thread
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a Fire Bobby ? or a Fireman on the Railway ?
Baptism: 19 Oct 1898 St Bridget, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Lawrence Henry Smaje - [Child] of Lawrence Smaje & Sarah Anne
Abode: 59 Goswell Street
Occupation: Fireman
Notes: P.B.
Baptised by: F. E. Sandys Curate
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It was seeing these posts on here that lead me to the other. Very small world. The world of Smajes is always such.