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Hello I am looking for William Britton who married Mary Jane Taylor (b:1873 Preston, Lancashire) they had a daughter Mary Elizabeth Britton (1893-abt:1959) she married Charles Frederick Pedersen in 1911. I believe they were from Maerdy Glamorgan, Wales, UK, and once married they lived in Pontypridd. Searching from Canada any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi how do you wish for us to trace him, forwards, or trace his parents etc?
Here he is in 1901:-
William Britton 35 occ Colliery Stoker Above Ground b Bristol Gloucs.
Mary J 28 b Preston Lancs
Mary E 7 b Mardy
Annie 5 b Mardy
Emily 1 b Mardy
Plus 2 Boarders
Residing at 12, Pentre Road, Ystradytodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.
Census Ref RG13/5020/103/4
Keyboard86
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Thank you for the prompt reply. I would like to know more about his past I believe his wife Mary Jane Taylor married abt: 1887. But it would be interesting to know anything about the family of William & Mary Jane. Cheers, Kim
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Hi this is 1891:-
William BRITTEN 26 occ Colliery Hitcher b Bristol
Mary ?? 23 b Lancashire
Frank 1 b Lancashire
Residing at 66, Pentre Road. Pontypridd, Glamorganshire
Census Ref RG12/4430/112/62
The marriage was Dec 1887 Preston 8e 976
Keyboard86
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The marriage was Dec 1887 Preston 8e 976
Keyboard86
Lancashire OPC has
Banns Christ Church, Fulwood, Lancashire, England
William Britton - of this Parish
Mary Jane Taylor - of St Thomas' Parish Preston
Banns Read: 18 Sep 1887, 2nd: 25 Sep 1887, 3rd: 2 Oct 1887
Lancashire BMD http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php
TAYLOR Mary Jane/BRITTON William St Thomas Preston 1887
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This looks to be Mary Jane TAYLOR but her age maybe a little young for a marriage in 1887 :-\
her marriage certificate would confirm father's name & occupation
1881 114, Adelphi St, Preston
TAYLOR, Thomas Head Married M 50 1831 Cotton Spinner Preston
TAYLOR, Mary Wife Married F 38 1843 Rover In Cotton Mill Preston
TAYLOR, James Son Single M 17 1864 Piecer In Cotton Mill Preston
TAYLOR, Christopher Son Single M 15 1866 Creeler In Cotton Mill Preston
TAYLOR, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Preston
TAYLOR, Albert Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Preston
TAYLOR, Amelia Daughter Single F 2 1879 Preston
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Hi Ladyhawk I have got to go out for a second, I think William is on RG11/4233/106/9, but only purchase of Marriage Certificate will confirm if this is correct family?
Keyboard86
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Keyboard86 that's the very one on my screen at the moment!!! The only puzzling thing is the place of birth given for William on all censuses after 1891 his birth place is given as Bristol :-\ Will take a look at the 1871c
The only way to be sure is the marriage certificate of William & Mary Jane. Unfortunately no details on Lancashire OPC apart from the banns, nothing on familysearch beta or pilot either :(
The 1881 census details I posted for Mary Jane do you think she is too young??
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Found another Mary J TAYLOR born Preston agemore in keeping with marriage 1887
1881c 6, Singleton Row, Preston
RG11 Piece:4236 Folio:70 Page:5
TAYLOR, Mary J Lodger Single F 11 1870 Half Time Weaver Preston Lancashire
Another lodger named Taylor perhaps her sister :-\
TAYLOR, Elizabeth Lodger Single F 14 1867 Cotton Weaver Farington Lancashire
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1901
William Britton 35 occ Colliery Stoker Above Ground b Bristol Gloucs.
Mary J 28 b Preston Lancs
Mary E 7 b Mardy
Annie 5 b Mardy
Emily 1 b Mardy
Plus 2 Boarders
Residing at 12, Pentre Road, Ystradytodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.
Census Ref RG13/5020/103/4
1911 census is free to search but cost credits to view
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
M J & William Britton have more children one son is named Arthur I'm speculating here that may be he was named after William's father and I'm wondering if this could be William on 1871c.
As previously mentioned the marriage certificate for William & Mary Jane will provide the answers
1871 Strafford Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol
RG10 Piece:2559 Folio:18 Page:27
Arthur BRITTON Head M 36 1835 St. George’s Gloucester Labourer
Mary Wife F 35 1836 St. George’s Gloucestershire
George Son M 14 1857 St George’s Gloucestershire
Elizh Daughter F 11 1860 St. George’s Gloucestershire
William Son M 8 1863 Bristol Gloucestershire
Polly Daughter F 3 1868 Gloucestershire
Rose Daughter F 0 1871 Gloucestershire
Purely for info. as everything should be vertified just in case this does turn out to be the family of William Britton bn 1864 Bristol
Arthur & Mary Britain living with George & Elizabeth Fire Engine Lane, St George 1861c RG09 Piece:1731 Folio:91 Page:5
Possible marriage entry FreeBMD
Clifton Gloucester Mar q 1853
Arthur Britton name on same page
Mary Long
possibly Arthur's wife Mary Long
1851 HO107 Piece:1953 Folio: 427 Page:13
Mary LONG Lodger Unmarried 1834 Cotton Spinner St George Gloucestershire
1841 Near Fire Engine, St George
HO107 Piece:377 Book/Folio:44 Page:6
Mary LONG 1834 Gloucestershire with parents Philip 1796 & Mary & siblings Elizabeth, Samuel, William, Isaac & George
1851 HO107 Piece:1953 Folio:478 Page: 1
Arthur BRITTON 16 1835 Coal Miner Bitton with father widowed Jonas bn 1804 Bitton Cordwainer
(Arthur's mother's name could be Sarah BRITTEN - see 1841c HO107 Piece:377 Book/Folio:30 Page:3)
3 children christenings
28/9/1807 Bitton, Gloucester parents Thomas BRITTEN & Hester
children named Jonas, John & Thomas
Again ONLY a possibility for William on 1881 census
1881 Horfield Barracks, Horfield, Horfield Gloucestershire
RG11 Piece:2488 Folio:63 Page:2
William BRITTON Single M 18 1863 Private Bristol Gloucestershire
If you do obtain the marriage certificate please let us know the details we may be able to help further :)
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I am confident this is them as Mary J has children Mary Elizabeth & Emily. This is keeping with some information I have. That would put Mary Jane born 1873-1874.
I am so happy I posted. This information is invaluable.
Hi how do you wish for us to trace him, forwards, or trace his parents etc?
Here he is in 1901:-
William Britton 35 occ Colliery Stoker Above Ground b Bristol Gloucs.
Mary J 28 b Preston Lancs
Mary E 7 b Mardy
Annie 5 b Mardy
Emily 1 b Mardy
Plus 2 Boarders
Residing at 12, Pentre Road, Ystradytodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.
Census Ref RG13/5020/103/4
Keyboard86
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OK since everyone has been so very helpful :) I wonder if I could challenge again with a BRITTON family brick wall.
I can find:
Births Jun 1922 Britton Violet M Wildman Todmorden 9a338
Marriages Jun 1941 Britton Violet M Sharpe Todmorden 9a831
Marriages Jun 1949 Britton Violet M Traviss Todmorden 2d1259
:-\ I am confused by BMD as I think it says Violet Britton is the daughter of Ann Britton & Mary Wildman in 1841??? I was under the understanding this family tied back to the family found:
1901
William Britton 35 occ Colliery Stoker Above Ground b Bristol Gloucs.
Mary J 28 b Preston Lancs
Mary E 7 b Mardy
Annie 5 b Mardy
Emily 1 b Mardy
Plus 2 Boarders
Residing at 12, Pentre Road, Ystradytodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.
Census Ref RG13/5020/103/4
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Hi are you saying that Violet should be the offspring of William and Mary J? If so Mary J would have been maybe too old to have been the mother, the link with Britton/Wildman in 1841 seems to be 2 ladies on same page of marriages in Leeds?
Keyboard86
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I wish it had been that easy. Family history stated that Violet Britton was family???? I am now trying to find the connection. I know this is 'our' Violet for sure. I have been unsuccessful finding her parents or the connection back to our Britton's.
Marriages Jun 1941 Britton Violet M Sharpe Todmorden 9a831
Marriages Jun 1949 Britton Violet M Traviss Todmorden 2d1259
Hi are you saying that Violet should be the offspring of William and Mary J? If so Mary J would have been maybe too old to have been the mother, the link with Britton/Wildman in 1841 seems to be 2 ladies on same page of marriages in Leeds?
Keyboard86
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I am just looking at the familysearch original site at the 1881 British Census and there is a William Britten son living at 36 Gordon Street, Preston, Lancashire, England. If Mary Jane is living at 114 Adelphi St. Preston looking at Google maps they are living very close to each other. Could this be my William??? There are also lots of brothers which Violet could then come from.
Robert BRITTON
Head M Male 40 Ennis Killin, Ireland Lab Agricultural
Jane BRITTON
Wife M Female 40 Ennis Killin, Ireland
Thomas BRITTON
Son U Male 16 St Helens, Lancashire, England Shuttle Maker
William BRITTON
Son Male 14 Preston Cotton Drawer
Robert BRITTON
Son Male 10 America Scholar
Lewis BRITTON
Son Male 8 America Scholar
Charles BRITTON
Son Male 6 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar
Avelina BRITTON
Daur Female 3 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar
Alexander BRITTON
Son Male 1 Preston, Lancashire, England
Mary SCOTT Sister In Law U Female 55 Ennis Killin, Ireland
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Source Information:
Dwelling 36 Gordon Street
Census Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342013
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4233 / 106
Page Number 9
1901
William Britton 35 occ Colliery Stoker Above Ground b Bristol Gloucs.
Mary J 28 b Preston Lancs
Mary E 7 b Mardy
Annie 5 b Mardy
Emily 1 b Mardy
Plus 2 Boarders
Residing at 12, Pentre Road, Ystradytodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.
Census Ref RG13/5020/103/4
1911 census is free to search but cost credits to view
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
M J & William Britton have more children one son is named Arthur I'm speculating here that may be he was named after William's father and I'm wondering if this could be William on 1871c.
As previously mentioned the marriage certificate for William & Mary Jane will provide the answers
1871 Strafford Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol
RG10 Piece:2559 Folio:18 Page:27
Arthur BRITTON Head M 36 1835 St. George’s Gloucester Labourer
Mary Wife F 35 1836 St. George’s Gloucestershire
George Son M 14 1857 St George’s Gloucestershire
Elizh Daughter F 11 1860 St. George’s Gloucestershire
William Son M 8 1863 Bristol Gloucestershire
Polly Daughter F 3 1868 Gloucestershire
Rose Daughter F 0 1871 Gloucestershire
Purely for info. as everything should be vertified just in case this does turn out to be the family of William Britton bn 1864 Bristol
Arthur & Mary Britain living with George & Elizabeth Fire Engine Lane, St George 1861c RG09 Piece:1731 Folio:91 Page:5
Possible marriage entry FreeBMD
Clifton Gloucester Mar q 1853
Arthur Britton name on same page
Mary Long
possibly Arthur's wife Mary Long
1851 HO107 Piece:1953 Folio: 427 Page:13
Mary LONG Lodger Unmarried 1834 Cotton Spinner St George Gloucestershire
1841 Near Fire Engine, St George
HO107 Piece:377 Book/Folio:44 Page:6
Mary LONG 1834 Gloucestershire with parents Philip 1796 & Mary & siblings Elizabeth, Samuel, William, Isaac & George
1851 HO107 Piece:1953 Folio:478 Page: 1
Arthur BRITTON 16 1835 Coal Miner Bitton with father widowed Jonas bn 1804 Bitton Cordwainer
(Arthur's mother's name could be Sarah BRITTEN - see 1841c HO107 Piece:377 Book/Folio:30 Page:3)
3 children christenings
28/9/1807 Bitton, Gloucester parents Thomas BRITTEN & Hester
children named Jonas, John & Thomas
Again ONLY a possibility for William on 1881 census
1881 Horfield Barracks, Horfield, Horfield Gloucestershire
RG11 Piece:2488 Folio:63 Page:2
William BRITTON Single M 18 1863 Private Bristol Gloucestershire
If you do obtain the marriage certificate please let us know the details we may be able to help further :)
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Of course William Britton is b: 1863 in Bristol, Gloucestershire. I think my brain is stressed. Thank you.
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Dear Kim
My grandparents were Frederick Charles Pederson and Mary Elizabeth Britton. They moved to Yorkshire from Pontypridd in approximately 1930.
I have more information about children etc... if you are still researching.